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Post by Del on Aug 17, 2008 1:16:36 GMT -5
I must say, I never thought I would see the day where I've been sourly slapped in the face by a younger person, someone on a lower frequency than I, someone far below my level on all levels of existence. Sourly slapped indeed.... The Projects (a group of apartment buildings that cater to people of lower frequencies, a hot bed of negativity where growth goes nowhere) is a place well known for such things as fighting, jealousy, disloyalty, dishonesty, etc, etc. SO I've been working in the middle of the Projects of Chelsea in NYC. It's funny 'cause on one side of the street you have the projects that take up about four blocks, and on the other side you have very expensive lofts and townhouses. That's manhattan for ya, go figure. When I first started, my only concern was to teach the 2nd graders something new, show and give them something they can take with them forever. Many days I would see this guy, sometimes I'd say Hello other times I'd just smile when he'd say hello...trying to be nice, because to me, although he didn't behave like the people that lived there in the projects, he was just another person working there that just didn't seem worth getting to know. One day, as I left for the day, he told me to have a good evening, to keep smiling and to be me. I smiled and finally asked him his name. He said 'Angel'...of course after looking up at the sky to give me a hint...I thought that was cute. Now, at this point, I wonder if, as an exception, all people named Angel, are angels (probably not). Angel is one of the maintenance guys that a lot of people ignore because he does maintenance and doesn't deal with the kids or the drama of dealing with the kids parent's. So he hears and sees everything. (I know this is a long post but I feel better already) We met in May, when I started working for the organization...I asked him for a kiss on my birthday in July. Such a Silly man, I made him so nervous it took a few kisses just to get a decent one out of him. And boy does he hear a lot of talk that goes around the building(s). I hadn't realized I was the hot topic of the year. Angel also tells the guys he works with to be respectful when around me, what not to say around me, how to speak and behave around me because I am not like the girls or women they live around (wasn't that sweet of him?). And so, each day we see each other, we try to get in a kiss or two or three, a few hugs, and plenty of smiles..all of course out of the sight of everyone that works there. BUt of course when people are around we can't help but glance, wink, smile or stare at each other. What can I say, there is an attraction there. Big deal. Apparently it is a big deal. I work in the projects. I always seem to forget that. Arick is a 19year old that lives in the projects as well,m but in another borough. He also has a crush on me. Maybe it was a bad idea to invite him to my last show with Desert Sin ( I left that company too; school demands I become monogamous with my studies and so I cannot have anymore affairs). He wants to take me out, he wants to know what he has to do for me to give him a chance.... I told him he was too young, both in age and psychologically, and that I am not interested...I said No. He also ran to mommy (mommy works in HR) and said he saw me kissing Angel in the hallway (it was a hug and a quick peck, perhaps a bad mistake, but he and I were so elated to see each other it was spontaneous and we weren't thinking about anything else)and Angel's supervisor was made aware of it... Now Arick taunts Angel about how wonderful my show was, how he has my number, blah, blah, blah... Angel was approached by someone (he won't tell me who), and they asked about his girlfriend (me), and Angel told this person in question that I am not his g/f but that we are friends. And then the person in question decided to tell Angel he heard I spent a weekend with Arick.... Now there is a rumor that I spent a weekend at Arick's place...the very same place where his mommy lives...and his brother too. Apparently there are a lot of htings going around about me tha I, in all honesty, would not think would happen, but... since the maintenance guy is the one always overlooked, people assume their talking will go unnoticed.... Angel is 38 years old, psychologically that makes him about 23-25 years old...plus his personal experience, makes him a decent guy to be around...though he has four kids . He's a good communicator. If there is an issue we may have, he makes sure things are cleared, as i like to do as well. He doesn't want any drama (guess he gets more than enough from his baby mama), and he keeps it real (he's straightforward). The Projects are a hot bed for lower level beings...Arick is one of them and I didn't pay much attention to it because I didn't think he'd have any interest because of the 4 year gap (he's turning 20) and the fact that he doesn't measure up to what I typically would go for. The staff I supervise are on a lower frequency as well, and my gosh I feel as if I have been suffocating this whole summer. Poison to my system, near poisoning the kids as well, it has been very hard for me to keep up with my lessons and activities. Many horrible things have been said about me because I do not do things the way they do. I am sure that other organizations have their downsides too, but in this case, the majority of the staff are under 23, no degree (one of them is working on hers and she's not so bad), no GED, and are all confrontational....and at-risk youth as well. There's the ah-ha moment. Angel didn't come to my show like he said he would, and so he named himself a fallen angel until he can be forgiven by me (which I did forgive him a few days later). How can two beings of different frequency levels work together? It is hard. I have had two dreams already with one of my staff members trying to harm me. The first dream he sprayed roach spray on the back of my head, and I caught him, asked him what the hell he was doing, that that wasn't hairspray and he pretended like he didn't know. I don't remember the second one, but it didn't feel any better than the first one. With each passing day, I am shown it is time for me to leave, but I only wish not to leave leaving things as they are at work. I wish people really did seek to know people themselves and not believe everything they hear, not be so judgmental. Because when I talk to some of the kids (yes they are in their late teens but they still behave like the children they're supposed to be watching), they complain about how they don't like the Site Coordinator, and it will be over something so small. Arick does that a lot and I thought my influence would help him to see things from a better perspective, as did my supervisor, and look where that got me...the front page of the workplace tabloids. No more befriending people like Arick and such.....the two worlds will only collide and severly damage each other. Angel is an angel, btw.
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Post by Kata Samoes on Aug 17, 2008 8:55:32 GMT -5
*sigh* That is such a sad situation you got thrown into, Del. I'm sorry.
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Post by KG on Aug 17, 2008 11:55:50 GMT -5
It is sad, but try not to take it so personally. Think of it this way. You are a very beautiful girl, obviously there is more to you because your spiriual imination is also beautiful. Of course you spark the imagination of these people. Many probably see you as a beautiful princess from another land, maybe not far away physically, but very far away socially and economically. Arick saw you as a sort of backward Cinderella story, in which he might play Cinderella. He may have seen you as his ticket out of the project mentality, but when he went to "the Ball" (your dance show) and still wasn't chosen... there was no glass slipper hunt ect. He felt a let down, rejected, disappointed etc. and stirred some gossip. A man scorned has the same reaction as a woman sometimes. As for the rest of them... well they are just facinated, and they want to talk about you, because they are interested, and curious. They don't have the courage to talk to you, unless you were to initiate the conversation. They want any story about you. Some are jealous, others though are only seeking an explaination for why such a beautiful fantastic creature might have come to their land. The ones who know wonder why you chose Angel as you friend. They are a bit jealous, because they think of him as one of them... why him? they wonder. Why does he get to kiss the pretty girl, talk to her, and be around her, when they don't. It is kind of like when a teen idol gets a girlfriend and the other little girls reading the fan mags get really bent out of shape. Often teen idols keep their personal lives secret for that reason. Now real rock stars are allowed to have personal lives, because their audience is more mature, but for a teen idol, any sign of a relationship can be a deathnail for their career. The best way to avoid this in the future is to be more open and show that you are a real person. Be sweet to everyone, and don't just pick a few favorites to be close to. Also it isn't good to think of fellow human beings as "LOWER EMINATIONS" No matter what their social status, or spiritual alignment, they are fellow human beings. Fruther one cannot determine spiritual alignment by social caste. In physical life even an 'untouchable' can also be very special from a more spiritual prospective... Angel for example, but there may be others you haven't noticed. At any rate most people don't notice... arent' aware of those bright spiritual entities they were born around, only the ones who come in with a lot of fanfair, and get everyone's attention. In a larger sense everyone is special, and everyone of these children is beloved by Jesus at least, and probably a lot of other powerful spiritual entities. All humans are precious and important. They are being given that unique chance at learning, and growing and possibly improving their spiriutal existance as well. We are all equals in that we are all students in life. We may understand some things better than others, but in my life at least there is no person I have met and not learned something from, even the mentally challenged... sometimes especially the mentally challenged, because those special people are sometimes more spirually aware and open than the rest of us. Sometimes the mentally challenged serve as God's messengers, because they can say any crazy thing and not draw attention from unbelievers. They also give and recieve messages flawlessly at times because they say whatever pops into their heads. I think it takes great courage to reach out to those in need, who may not have the advantages we do. Sometimes they are rougher, but no meaner than their richer counterparts. Underneith their clothes, and their hair styles, and the varying weights of their wallets, people are pretty much the same. I know when I used to go to prison ministry, I first expected those guys to be different from other people I knew, but I found out quickly that aside from being locked up they were no different from the next guy, and that many of them didn't do anything any of us wouldn't have done under similar circumstances. Everything they had done was completely understandable, and within the range of normal human reaction. They just got caught at a bad time so to speak. They were certainly not inferior human beings. I liked most of them a lot. I also learned of another phenomonon though. Many of the women made themselves seem available to a more romantic sort of relationship. In my opinion that weakened their power in that place, and made them seem rather pathetic. It also put them in a questionable light. I never did that sort of thing in the prisons. That just confuses the mission, and causes disruption. I hugged prisoners don't get me wrong. That is just part of the religion I represented at the time. A hug is nothing, a kiss on the cheek... well that goes a bit fruther than I wanted to go. Anything more was inappropriate to the situatation, and only led to trouble. Some of the women developed romantic ties to men from the prison, and went out with them after they got out, but to me that was just not what we were there for... maybe it was what they were there for... but that cause for suspicion of less than pure motives, made their ministry much less effective in my opinion. It made it seem they had an ulterior motive, or a need of their own which interfered with the purpose of the program. The idea that some women need a captive audience to hold the attention of a man, isn't a pleasant thought... though it works 100 percent of the time for any woman regardless of appearance. LOL I am aware of the tough exterior people of lesser means can display to protect themselves. It is mostly a camoflage, and underneith all that the roughest biker, and the meanest gang banger are just frightened children playing tough, and trying to level the playing field for themselves. They aren't any more likely to be bad people deep down than the banker, or the lawier. They are no more likely to do you harm, only that the harm they can do is of a different nature. As long as you are gentle friendly and kind they will not choose to harm you. For this reason you do not have a knife at your throat, only a bit of gossip which is really the result of curiosity. Your situatation isn't so bad, and could have been a lot worse. Gossip is not the end of the world. You are pretty and they watch you because you are easy on the eyes so to speak. They notice what you do, because you stand out. All that stage presence doesn't go away just cause you aren't on stage. They watch and they talk about what they see. It's just natural. Don't worry, enjoy. If it bothers you then give them less to watch, and talk to them so they get the real story. One day you'll be 48 like me and could do most anything without anyone nociting... and then you will miss the attention. I know I do. Kim
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Post by Del on Aug 17, 2008 21:38:30 GMT -5
I am well aware of that Kim. Unless I know for certain that their signature is other than human, I do not look down at them or think less of them as a fellow human being.
Not all human beings vibrate on the same frequency level, and that is what I am referring to. 99% of the people I work around or with are not on the same vibrational frequency but they are still a fellow human being nonetheless, and their role and purpose in existence is just as important, for what ever their purpose may be, and no, I do not hold myself above those i work around. Because their world is different than mine, our experiences will be different, and both worlds can learn from one another.
Excuse me if I sound annoyed, but I am. I would think you'd think better of what I say Kim, let alone for me to think to put someone else down because of their social status. It is just a common quality I have seen and experienced since I have stepped foot in the Projects (going to school there for an example only having to be transferred for safety reasons) ten years ago.
That is so true. And I know this. People of high social standing can vibrate on such a low frequency, or vice versa. Does that make them any better or less, no, because we are human beings (unless for obvious reasons they are well and truly something else).
I KNOW.
It was upsetting to experience this ten years ago, and then to come to a place where children are supposed to matter most and nothing else, is where I am having an issue with 'befriending' those that vibrate on a lower frequency level. It has been to my experience that, if they do not recognize their ability to grow spiritually, then they dwell in the depths of icky-ness not caring to rise above it, and then when someone that vibrates at a higher frequency comes along, open arms, loving and caring, kind and generous, they either feel the need to drag the person down, or hurt them because they do not understand what it is they see and that they can transcend their current state of being.
I would talk with most of them and ask them why they let certain things bother them, explaining how so un-beneficial it is and bring up the stupidity of their behavior (tactfully put), and in the moment they see that it makes sense, but yet they still decide to behave the same way.
Now why the hell would I want to be around stuff like that?
NO they're not on my level, but that doesn't mean I think less of them. I always ask, each time I go to work, WHY can't they see? WHY? And when I try to help WHY do they feel the need to hurt? WHY?
WOuld someone vibrating on the same level as I behave in he exact same manner as one that vibrates at a lower frequency level? Not likely, but nonetheless, they are human beings just as I am, no matter what reincarnated emanation I may be, they still are special and have purpose. They just haven't realized it yet or not sought to or not bothered to take the steps to do so.
Does that make them less than I? No. It's their FREAKING choice.
I greatly appreciate your feedback Kim, and I am surprised you'd think I'd think less of those that don't vibrate at the same frequency level. When I say 'frequency level' I do not mean to categorize as one is better than the other. I don't vibrate at the same level a yogi does, yet both myself and a yogi has a significant purpose.
We are all human beings, but not created in the same exact manner, nor from the same exact emanation, yet come from the same source of creation overall. We each are our unique individual state of being, Kim. I know this, you know this, and this is what I am going to school for, and then-some.
I am simply stating that befriending someone that does not vibrate at the same frequency level will be a catastrophic event, therefore I will not befriend again. Acquaint with and work with, sure, because every experience is a learning experience, but no, I will not seek to do it again.
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Post by Wunderkind on Aug 17, 2008 22:33:05 GMT -5
I believe the thing to consider is not that you are being judged as a judgemental person, but your words are considered judgemental words. "Lower" is often considered synonomous with "lesser/less than" which indicates a "holier than thou" complex. If you don't want to give that impression, choose your words more wisely or with a more politically correct mentality in mind. If you don't want to change your words and the often bad taste they can leave in people's mouths, then add a disclaimer. Elsewise if you refuse to reconsider the names you lable things with, it seems odd to get upset at someone not being able to read more than the words you leave on a page- even if you feel they should know you well enough by now to read your mind. I do not know you at all, so perhaps it is more excusable of me to have initially (keyword) thought you had a spoiled princess complex going on in that post.
I honestly am aware of the certain "levels" people omit, but I have never found myself to have a problem with befriending any level. Perhaps I am just more adaptable.
In any event, sorry for the hard times.
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Post by Del on Aug 17, 2008 23:03:34 GMT -5
I believe the thing to consider is not that you are being judged as a judgemental person, but your words are considered judgemental words. "Lower" is often considered synonomous with "lesser/less than" which indicates a "holier than thou" complex. If you don't want to give that impression, choose your words more wisely or with a more politically correct mentality in mind. If you don't want to change your words and the often bad taste they can leave in people's mouths, then add a disclaimer. Elsewise if you refuse to reconsider the names you lable things with, it seems odd to get upset at someone not being able to read more than the words you leave on a page- even if you feel they should know you well enough by now to read your mind. I do not know you at all, so perhaps it is more excusable of me to have initially (keyword) thought you had a spoiled princess complex going on in that post. I honestly am aware of the certain "levels" people omit, but I have never found myself to have a problem with befriending any level. Perhaps I am just more adaptable. In any event, sorry for the hard times. I had assumed things were well with those I worked with, never thought there was an issue because I assumed I got a long just fine. Apparently, it isn't the case. It's the whole smile in your face stab you in the back mojo. Which is where I assumed that I could get along with anyone regardless of the level they emitted. ( DISCLAIMER- not placing anyone in a less than they are category, just trying to point out the stage of spiritual development when I say lower or higher). I also wanted to point out that I have tried this before, 10 years ago, when I was not where I am now as far as vibrational frequency goes ( DISCLAIMER- the level of which my spiritual energy vibrated at ten years ago is not the same as it is now), and thought that the people I called friends were my friends when in fact they weren't. Now I clearly see that what ever it is I do, no matter what frequency one vibrates at ( DISCLAIMER- not placing a vibrational frequency above another, the term is used to identify the individual's spiritual signature/pressure/level of spiritual growth, etc, etc), I will run into problems. I honestly did not expect what happen at work to happen because I thought/assumed I was on good terms with everyone I worked with. sounds judgmental in the initial thought, but since we are all a big family here on the board, i suppose it can be excusable. (Har har I should bite your head off...) Excuse me for not writing for my audience as I should have.... I apologize if my words came off as having a princess complex. It was not intended to. I am agitated at the thought of having to go back to a nonproductive environment. I cannot function well in environments such as those. And I apologize Kim, if my words seemed harsh to you on an open baord. Do not take offense to the tone, it's not an attack against anyone here that reads it, I am simply RANTING and RAVING at having to go through this CRAP again. My experiences are, obviously Mem, a lot different than yours. As an acquaintance would say to me, Welcome to Earth. One big HAPPY playground....la dee da.
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Post by Wunderkind on Aug 17, 2008 23:57:40 GMT -5
Well, that sucks. You thought you could get along with back stabbers? Well, that was pretty noble of you, I'd probably be nasty. ( DISCLAIMER- not placing anyone in a less than they are category, just trying to point out the stage of spiritual development when I say lower or higher). Well that's too bad, some people just want to see the bad in everything and no matter how much you try to have them see things possitively, they aren't ready. They may never be ready in that lifetime, or the next, or the one after that. Initially, yes, I was being particularly judgemental because your words were giving me a poor impression, and then I read your comments Kim and decided it was just the choice of words, not you actually being a spoiled princess. And bite my head off if it will make you feel better, it honestly will not have a negative effect on me or change my way of going. I don't mind being put out there, especially here. Write however you want, I was just pointing out that it never hurts to be aware of how you can be interpreted. That way, if things don't go quite as you wanted them read, you'll have some sense of the why instead of getting snippy. For example, I tried my best to write neutrality from a positive place while still being a tad blunt, and am fully aware it could invoke either a positive and understanding response, or a snippy one, so I won't be offended by either. I admire people who can, but they are rare. I think I have only met two people, and the only reason they could stand it is because they have so devoted themselves to God and believe in His plan. I'm not sure if our experiences are actually all that different or not, but obviously our way of dealing with them is different. LOL, some places actually are nice to be around, too bad they are bordered so intensely with negativity.
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Post by KG on Aug 18, 2008 1:36:13 GMT -5
I am sorry if you took offence Del, but it really did sound like you were putting them down, and thinking yourself better than they are. Maybe it was just a poor choice of words.
If what you say is truely a spiritual condition then it must have a cause though. Why would they have a lower emination level just because they live in the projects. Why would they all be lower... right across the board? All of them vibrate at the same lower frequency? That, you have to admit, is strange. Not everyone is on the path to enlightenment, of course, and not everyone wants to be, or knows to be... but if this emination is an unusual thing peculiar to the projects then maybe as a higher emination being, you should be looking for spiriutal causes rather than just planning to avoid the situation in the future.
We cannot just avoid the suffering masses because it feels yucky to be around them, even though sometimes we lay down with dogs and get up with fleas so to speak. Drowning people often try to pull you down with them. That doesn't mean life guards just walk away from drowning people. They just have to be stronger swimmers than the people they are saving.
I think what you are seeing may have several different causes, but souls aren't chosen to be born and live in the projects because they have a similar low vibrating nature... so either you are only percieving them as different, or the cause of the vibe difference has to be something environmental... and thus potentially temporary.
Do you think that what you are feeling is due to the dispare of poverty? That is what I thought you meant, and as such that did sound a bit judgmental to hold that against them. When things are going wrong for people, and they feel hopeless to get out of a situatation... whether that situation is poverty, a chronic disease, or a bad family situation, people feel bad, and thus put off icky energy. All people put off yucky energy when they feel hopeless, helpless, and useless. Honestly nothing smells as bad as the stench of a powerful spiritual entity suffering. The stronger we are the worse it is when we really get down. Sure we have more tools to protect ourselves, and more ability to fight it, but if we do get dragged down, we go really low, and we put off mega tons of negative crap, instead of the little dropperful an uninitiated person puts off.
That is why negs try to capture us. Feeding off a bunch of people who haven't developed themselves spiritually is a lean meal for someone or something who feeds off neg energy, but a powerful person putting off neg energy is like a neuclear reactor. Of course negs try to bring you down. We can't let them do that, but sometimes we do have to take the risks involved in order to help others.
As for causes, in addition to hopless abject poverty, it could be a spirit connected to the land beneith the projects themselves. It could be as simple as some sort of mineral deposit under the dirt that makes them feel bad, or it could be the spirits of all the hopless people that lived in the houses before them, or the combined hoplessness of all of them feeding on each other. Other disincarnate and astral spirits of like mind might be attracted to a large quantity of negative energy also. In any case as a spiritual worker you can't be afraid to get your hands dirty or on the other hand go waltzing in there and try to free those people without taking precautions, and realizing that there will be resistance.
It is sad that you are having trouble dealing with these people Del, but hardly the most important part of the story. Still I have to say that your role has to be defined when you enter a place. You are either there as a professional teacher, or as an energy worker and spiritual guide, or you are there to meet people to socialize with. You have to choose that, not just in this situation but in every situation. If something happens once you are in to change your role, then you have to be conscious of that and weigh what you are giving up, in your primary goal, in order to gain whatever you want to gain from the other role you chose to begin with.
Still, of course you are always yourself first and foremost, and because of that, you will have conflicts of interest. Occasionally you will meet someone you want to be friends with, or more than friends with. You might have to take a counciling role, in addition to teacher, or you might have to fight a spiritual battle at work, but none of that should ever be allowed to interfere with the job you were hired to do. As a spiritual worker, you have a built in responsiblity to deal with people and locations on a spiriutal level. You don't get a day off from that ever. At the same time you can't be obvious about it. Eventually you will learn a seamless way to mix everything you do with your spiritual work, and use it to obtain your goals, and help others.
It feels very confining to have to limit your goals within a place, but usually you do. It sounds like this place needs some sort of huge energy work... I mean because all these people are obviously impacted by this common low frequency emination.
So what percentage of people outside this project are on your frequency level? I mean on one hand if only one percent of the general population is vibrating to suit you then it is unreasonable to close yourself off to most of the world. You will have to lower your standards a bit. On the other hand if this is something that you rarely see outside the projects then it is obvious that the people in the project are trapped in some sort of limbo, or vortex and need help.
So... this problem is just peculiar to the projects and not an across the board situation where most people are just low frequency? It also keys back to childhood experiences of yours? That may be something that impacts you too closely. It would be a bear for you to deal with, but probably something you will eventually have to face, like your personal boogie man so to speak.
Human beings are almost never purely one thing. As humans most of us are corruptable, and also good deep down. WE aren't perfectly good, or perfectly evil. Still humans can be very distructive to each other, especially if there is some spiriutal influence leading us to feel we are on different sides. People can be influenced against their usual natures to take down an opposite energy, and that may be what has happened.
The children are a priority, and therefore befriending the children has to be an unconditional affection, or at least concern for them. Your relationship with the adults is possibly less crucial unless you feel called to help them for some reason.
If people knew how to get out of ickyness they probably would... don't you think? The problem is that people never realize why they are icky. Most of those people probably think they feel icky because they are poor. Or maybe they think they are icky because they are ugly, or not able to afford the best cosmetics and clothing. Maybe they are aware they are icky because they are depressed about these things, but most of them haven't thought of it as a spiritual condition, which could be changed by spiritual development.
The only time I have ever experienced people trying to drag me down was with my inlaws, and in middle school with a few other bullies. They are spiritually developed, they are just not on the same side as me apparently. They know my power and fear it... I am aware of theirs as well. I have trouble with parinoid, and powerful people, of questionable alignment, not with those who are just low frequency.
Behavior modification is a very long tedious task. It isn't something that people change just because they are told one time of a better way.
IDK... maybe because you are being paid to teach children? Maybe because as a spiritual worker you will be required to deal with this kind of thing? Maybe because you could actually help these people if you would really rise above the situation and out of your own skin long enough to see it for what it is? Maybe because these people really are spiritually trapped, and you could do energy work to save them?
Drowning people want to be pulled out of the pool. Starving people want to be fed. Sick people want healing, or at least medication. All of these kinds of people want help so desperately they become selfish. Almost no one in an emergency room is willing to say, "all these people are sicker than me, so take them first. I'll just wait ten hours." No one drowning in a pool is willing to wait till the lifeguard comes back from lunch either. Starving people want bread not cleche pat answers or advice. In short your help isn't as effective as they would like, and they don't feel helped or they would be nicer... but still desperation drives them to hang on.
The key to saving a drowning person without resistance is the strength to bear that person up on your swimming body, in a firm grip, so that their head doesn't go under a single time. So that they feel secure. It takes a lot of power to do that, and without it all the rational talk in the world isn't going to be heard. If your personal power worked in such a way to make them feel secure they wouldn't lash out so, but instead they see you as a swimmer just swimming by letting them drown, and saying here swim this way... can't you see how good I can swim. I am an ace swimmer, why can't you swim like me. They don't see you as helping them. They want to be pulled out of the pool, not given a swiming lesson when they already have both lungs full of water.
Of course they resent your attempts to show off your strokes while they drown. They need a hand, not a lesson.
I don't think they have thought about their plight in spiriutal terms at all. Drowning people sometimes get right with god, but only once they sink to the bottom, and know for sure they are down for the last time. Usually they die fighting to regain the surface. These people probably see their situation as about money, or status, or all the other things that feel secure in this physical world.
If they have a choice, I doubt very seriously that they realize it, much less understand it the way we do. Honestly I don't know how much I would understand if I were in their shoes.
Well the yogis have their ways of doing things, and Mercy and Prudence apparantly have different ways of doing things too... and different ways of looking at things.
We aren't of the same emination, none of us, but the point is that if all these people in the projects ARE putting out the same low frequency emination, the problem can't be a soul deep, It has to be surface, or some kind of spiriutal trap. As Mercy I know what I would do, but as Prudence? I really don't know. All I can say is that Fools rush in where angels fear to tread, and I was always one of the fools. I did understand where I was though, and didn't go skipping in carrying a basket of flowers. When in enemy territory one has to be careful, but that doesn't mean don't go.
Define friend? I am a bit confused. What are we trying to do with these people. Are we shaking their hands or soul kissing them? Are we having tactile conversations at work, or going to dinner and the movies with them? Are we trying to help them? Are we guiding them spiriually? Are we giving them advice? Are we considering them as equals or projects of our own? Are we having a two way friendship, or a one way giving relationship?
Friend means different things to different people, and I agree not everyone is going to be our best buddy. At work there is such a thing as a professional relationship, and it is best not to try to drag that into any sort of personal or social affiliation. There are a few exceptions to that, but in general work friends are just that, work friends. At the same time if people need help then we are obliged to offer that help. They obviously don't get your point as far as what you are telling them. I think energy work here is sorely needed. I also think that whatever it is... might be out of your league as far as changing it. If it were me I would be saying, "what would Mother Theresa do," but she may not be your personal hero. How to handle things like this depends on who you are and how you see your role, but swearing off of reaching out to people with "lower vibes," just because you took a little bad press from gossip, seems a bit caloused to Mercy.
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Post by Del on Aug 18, 2008 5:28:54 GMT -5
Sleep does the body and mind good. The feel of the projects is perhaps as you say it is Kim, more deeply rooted than just seeing on the surface. And if you have a similar mindset or mentality, it's a place for you to thrive. And yes, spiritual work would be a good thing for a lot of them, and yes they do feel like limbos. It's like looking at different layers of people's perspectives of life. Theirs is a lot different from mine. I did a lesson plan on something similar with my kids, only I used animals as an example. The world of the animals is different from ours. A snow leopard will never know what the grassy plains of the lions world looks like, and vice versa. THe organization I work with is funded by the wealthy, and has a high reputation, yet it is located dead smack in the middle of the 'Projects'. So I went in, assuming that those I work with were on a certain level of maturity because of what the mission is of this organization. At this point I'd like to say it was very naive of me to think so. I didn't seek out Angel because I was there to do a certain task. Angel sought me out. Angel and I are from different worlds so-to-speak, yet he and I interact just fine. He catches his language when he can and tries his best to not offend me in any way. I think it's silly in some ways because I don't want him to modify his behavior on my behalf, but whatever it is he sees or what he knows a lot of the people do not see or know. When I arrived at the organization I didn't seek to seek anyone out to help them outside of the kids, and that is perhaps what caused a clash. I wasn't there to make friends, only to help the kids. The way I do things is different from how everyone else there does thing because the majority of them live in the projects and are used to doing things differently. So when someone else comes along to change things for the better, it goes against what they are used to. I cannot speak for all of the people that live in the projects, but I have been told by parents that live there that because of what I know, where I am from, people will not like it. I am different. I may look like them, but I do not speak and behave like them. One of my kids asked me if I was 'black' because I knew so much about different things, and all she knows is rap, hip hop and the project life. Part of it has to do with spiritual development. And yes Kim, the areas feel so lost and depraved. I forget who I am talking to at times and I can see what you are saying. I am there, and if there is a need or desire to reach out to me, I will not push you away. But I will not come rushing to you asking you if you need a friend or help. Wisdom hastens to make herself known to those who desire her. I will not readily open myself to anyone (regardless of what level they vibrate on or what level of spiritual development they are at). I like to see where people are before I open up. That's what I did. As a matter of fact, the whole staff thought I was stuck up and snobbish. I said my hello's and goodbye's but didn't run to them and say hey, let's be buddies outside of work and all of that good stuff. Wisdom is radiant and unfolding, and she is easily discerned by those who love her and is found by those who seek her. She will reveal her secrets to them. I got so into working with the kids and opening up bit by bit as my fellow employees opened up that I didn't think anything would be wrong...I thought I was in the clear. Apparently, not so true. And you are right, no matter where I go there will be troubles such these and more. It is just that I assumed things would work a certain way because of the audience we are there for (the kids) and the mission of the organization. Now I know better. And again, I am sorry that I came off in a way that seemed judgmental. Poor choice of words (funny, I just finished a technical writing course...should have known better), and for not getting everything out on a clear head. People that don't know who you are or take the time to understand where you come from and not be judgmental will behave like that. I should have known better. Right, well they are all friends friend, since they all live in the same area. I meant friend as in a tolerable work buddy, which is what I should have said. Befriending in s sense that we get along well because we are both working towards the same goal. But if being poisoned and plotted against (happened in my dream s)is how they treat each other, I will surely count myself out. Because there is a point where there is a spiritual clashing of the titans. This organization works on a various of levels - one for teens at risk, one for the little ones, and then there's a sector for the elderly (perhaps I should have stated this at the very very beginning...). Teens at risk, obviously they are confrontational and at risk for going to jail. So I see where there would be conflict. But Arick isn't a teen at risk. His mom got him a job there because she works there and to make sure she keeps an eye on him. He's the little twit spreading rumors because I told him No. And most of the back stabbing is from staff older than I, that have been working there longer than I have. Smile and chit chat when I face them, talk gibberish when I turn my back. The teens I have worked with, well I don't pay them any mind because of where their mind is. I just do what I have to do, remind them they are there to work and of course they have an issue with it. But as Mercy is, I see what Mercy is saying. But as I am, I will not run in to save the day. I am just there, watching and doing what I normally do. When you are ready I will open up.
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Post by Kata Samoes on Aug 18, 2008 9:25:51 GMT -5
So...is the fighting done now, or does Kata have to throw the smackdown??
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Post by KG on Aug 18, 2008 19:03:20 GMT -5
Ah Kata that's not a fight. LOLDel and I are just being honest with each other. I used to avoid upsetting her when possible by not leveling with her, but she doesn't like that, so I have learned to be honest, and to the point instead of beating around the bush... at least with Del.
Del and I are sisters. We have a very big family, but we are still sisters. It's weird because I am older in life and have a lot more experience that way, but Del is older astrally by a long shot, and has a lot more experience in her past lives. I was just acting as the physically older person, to get her to see things on a deeper level than personal. All that so that her greater wisdom would kick in.
In general Del, I don't think the whole project is out to get you. Little Arick is just hurt because you like Angel best, and have blown him off. He's spread some gossip, and gossip does spread even among the nicest of people. For some reason people sometimes have nothing better to do than spread rumors. It's nothing personal just how people are... plus you are new, and therefore more interesting than the people they usually gossip about. I don't think gossip amounts to much unless you let it.
As for the neg energy of the projects it is understandable it is that way, but it's probably more to clean up than you could handle alone. What you are doing, in teaching the next generation there is more to life than hip hop is probably the most valuable gift you could give them. You are giving the little ones the choice, or at least showing them there is a choice.... and a dream to rise above their beginings.
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Post by Del on Aug 18, 2008 23:31:56 GMT -5
Ah Kata that's not a fight. LOLDel and I are just being honest with each other. I used to avoid upsetting her when possible by not leveling with her, but she doesn't like that, so I have learned to be honest, and to the point instead of beating around the bush... at least with Del. LOL. I was wondering when he'd step in and start litigating. But Kim is right, I don't like the beating around the bush bit at all. Sleep does the mind a lot of good, so does contemplation.... You are absolutely right. I spoke to my supervisor about it because Angel called me this morning, really early as I was on my way to work, and he sounded very upset, and i was hoping it wasn't about something new. My supervisor kind of figured out about half of what was going on and we both came to the same conclusion. She also added an interesting insight to the whole situation, one I put on the back burner, but I felt a lot better talking to her about it. I do not want this to go to a level where I have to bring Arick up on Slandering charges. THAT would be job changing event... Not a task I am up to taking, but with the kids, I hope that most of what I have taught and shown them stays with them for as long as possible. I feel better....I stopped talking to Arick altogether and now just look forward to going to California for a week for school.\ And adding to this highlight...my daughter was born on July 22!!!!!!!!! (for those of you not clear as to what I am talking about, I was an egg donor last november and it was such a big shing-ding in the astral to create her soul and all of that stuff...first an angel showed her to me a couple of days before she was born, then on a rainy day, I just felt this overwhelming joy and connection that is so hard to describe, I automatically knew it was her). When it rains, our connection is very powerful it amazes me. Any form of natural running water (ocean, river, stream, and rainfall) is connected to her essence. I can't wait to meet her when she gets older....hoping I am able to.... Her essence is water
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Post by Ko'an Noi on Aug 27, 2008 7:21:08 GMT -5
Wow. Okay, even though this is basically over and done with, I really, really want to put my opinion in. But I won't. Becasue then I might get yelled at :lol: or start something more.
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