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Post by KG on Sept 8, 2008 23:22:25 GMT -5
Do any of you know anything about the Hadron Collider? www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/12/071214115007.htmIs this a good thing? Is this a bad thing? Will it blow us all up? LOL I'm concerned that it might impact things on a level unobservable by scienctists, but noticable on the astral. Does anyone understand exactly what this might mean? I think it might impact the veil.
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Post by a'Lan Mandragoran on Sept 9, 2008 1:12:48 GMT -5
Well, we'll find out tomorrow...
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Post by stonerwolf on Sept 9, 2008 1:31:29 GMT -5
i read that there is nothing to worry about, that things like this happen every 10 seconds, and on tremendously larger scales than the LHC can produce.
if the LCH is a threat to life, then we'd all be dead before the earth had a chance to cool off after it was created.
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Post by a'Lan Mandragoran on Sept 9, 2008 5:01:21 GMT -5
It could be propaganda. Don't believe it! hehe
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Post by Xavrael on Sept 9, 2008 17:31:46 GMT -5
Eh, That's what the project is mainly about, watching protons, etc. crash into each other at such a rate that when they break up into the tiniest components they can, the scientists'll be able to measure and find out things (on a subatomic level) they couldn't find out before. This wouldn't be the first particle accelerator made, this one just happens to be...much larger (and more advanced supposedly). so we'll just have to wait and see what they come up with. Chances of a mini black hole that could potentially be made, eating up the earth are veeeery slim (last i saw.... .<insert lots of zeros>1 chance). As for the effect it could have....go look at one of the normal particle accelerators and then beef up the potential results/effects by what the LHC might be able to do.
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Post by stonerwolf on Sept 9, 2008 17:43:52 GMT -5
EVEN IF a mini black hole is made, the chances of it being self sustained are slim to none.
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Post by Del on Sept 9, 2008 18:08:09 GMT -5
Well it may not have much physical effect, but it could possibly have a major effect on all things unseen as well as those that are more adept than others spiritually.
And like all things, the best way to find out is to wait for tomorrow. They're how many hours ahead of us?
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Post by ~Sephity~ on Sept 9, 2008 18:35:16 GMT -5
If they succeded in making a tiny universe, it wouldn't have much effect on the astral, except maybe creating another peice of the astral, and it wouldn't really be populated densly until sentient beings exist in it.
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Post by Xavrael on Sept 9, 2008 21:01:40 GMT -5
If the theoretical physicists are right, new universes are made all the time stemming from all of the possible choices each and every one of us make alone (I.E. Bush could be gay in one universe, and could have been assassinated in another...or both in yet another...or not a president at all. I could be from Argentina. etc. etc.). Something to do with String Theory and some other one. Forgot the name hehe.
Either way, should be interesting to see what happens.
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Post by KG on Sept 9, 2008 22:06:48 GMT -5
I know these guys are probably some the foremost scientists of our times. They are probably smart enough not to blow up the entire earth or even do anything noticable to us. The same was true of the guys who invented the steam engine, and the gasoline engine... and the guys who built the millions of additional steam and gasoline engines, and electric motors after that. They thought they were taking precautions, and that their inventions would benfit mankind... and those inventions did benefit us for a long time. However none of those people forsaw the long term effects like global warming, or air polution. Honestly all that started in the 1850's although the steam engine was actually invented in colonial times... it took them a long time to even figure out what it could be used for. I think they used the first steam engine for a water pump. It was primative, but soon other people found other uses for it, and now engines of all kinds are so plentiful that it is difficult to escape the sound of them anywhere.
Right now the particle beam accelerator is in the experimental stages. They don't really know what it could be used for besides experimentation, and observation... but who knows what the application might be later on, or what the continued use of these things over time might do. In general this thing might provide a great benefit to us, or it might be our eventual downfall.
My gut instinct is that it could provide a link however small between the astral and the physical. It may effect a sort of instability, or change which no one could foresee. Whether this is a good thing or a bad thing is an unknown factor. I've heard concerns about black holes, and disturbances in the space time continium... of course the scientists think this is nonsense, and I kind of agree in that this preticular experiment probably won't do anything physically observable at first, any more than the first car engine created all the current air polution we see in 2008, nor did the first steam engine blow a hole in the ozone. I would just feel better if I knew someone with more than just physical senses was observing this experiment to see if it was having unseen effects.
The first steam engine created a lot of soot, and mess, but it didn't seem important at the time, because it was the only one. Later when there were a lot of them, and soot fell on the roofs of London, and other major cities... it still didnt' seem like a huge deal. Now we know that it was a big deal, and it led to other inventions that were even more of a big deal to our environment... but at the same time, it caused advances in society and technology... but was it worth the polution?
Anyway I think the experiment is important... I think it is ground breaking, and that it may give us answers to questions we've been asking, but I think it may lead to other things, and those things may be good and/or bad. I do think eventually things like this will make a difference especially in some less tangible elements... just as air quality seemed less tangible in the 1860's than getting work done faster, so the effects of this may be barely perceptable at first compaired to the results.
You are right. We will have to wait and see, but I doubt we will get our answer tomorrow, on whether or not it is harmful. IT might take a good while to see the effects of this thing, and it may not ever do anything... but I do think the technology bears watching, by those of us who have dealings with things other than tangible.
Kim
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Post by Ko'an Noi on Sept 19, 2008 7:22:31 GMT -5
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Post by ~Sephity~ on Sept 20, 2008 8:48:42 GMT -5
It was hacked.
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Post by stonerwolf on Sept 22, 2008 20:32:24 GMT -5
god damned hackers always ruining people's fun
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Post by Ko'an Noi on Sept 26, 2008 7:01:56 GMT -5
It... was hacked....? How in the world did someone hack it? And to do what?
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Post by Xavrael on Sept 28, 2008 3:26:20 GMT -5
Haven't heard anything about it being hacked - just that one of the metal rings or whatever wasn't at the near zero temperature it needed to be and ended up melting due to the high amount of energy, fusing to one of the other rings or something along those lines. Involved Metal doing what it wasn't supposed to heh....but would be kinda funny (in a, "I want to beat you") sort of way if it was in fact, Hacked.
Was looking forward to seeing what they'd find.
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