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Post by lordazurath on Oct 22, 2007 20:41:03 GMT -5
Well basicly, i think there is a god, and one alone. But there may be more.
anyway, not straying from the topic.. I have found a way to prove gods existance, though there are still some questions.
According to the Quantem theory, matter that moves 2x the speed of light can create energy, yet the same is true in opposite.
I belive that god, a mass of energy, found a void in the deep eternity of this realm, and unleashed its power. Creating the "big bang".
this would mean that there is a god, and he/she/it does controll us all, but not by a direct hand, but because we are all spawn of the mass that created all things.
therefore all things are equal in every way, no animal greater than another, no inanimate object better than something else.
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Post by ~Sephity~ on Oct 22, 2007 21:03:57 GMT -5
How would you explain the other galaxies then? I understand the theory.
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Post by lordazurath on Oct 22, 2007 21:08:19 GMT -5
mm perhaps there are no other galixies, have we ever truely phisicly been to them?
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Post by ~Sephity~ on Oct 22, 2007 21:11:00 GMT -5
No, but we've SEEN them, and seen around them.
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Post by lordazurath on Oct 22, 2007 21:23:49 GMT -5
yea, but then again, who is to say that they could be figmants of stars, or supernovas, and they might not be there for another 30 years?
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Post by ~Sephity~ on Oct 23, 2007 6:30:45 GMT -5
Well we can also see when a star goes out, so we'd know if a whole galaxy went out.
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Post by KG on Oct 23, 2007 11:41:25 GMT -5
I agree on all points, or at least all the points of what you say that I understand. Thinking about other galaxies, and the speed of light, gives me a headache... I'm not going to stay in that kind of thought mode too long. LOL
As for other Gods, that one God thing got taken out of context a lot. It is a principle that is hard to understand. Kabbalism states there is one God, but many facets or eminations of him. These are things like Strength, Wisdom, Mercy, Severity ect. Look up Kabbalism, tree of life and you will see what I mean quickly. Gnostic Christianity states the same principle, in the Pistis Sophia... you can read this in Gnostic Society Library site. They speak of Aeons, which means eminations of God.
I believe that God deligates authority to his children, and we are all his children in different ways, and playing different roles in this situation. As you said animals and people are alike, and we are all part of God, all his eminations or children... from the top of the food chain to the bottom we are all part of the same thing. The hunter, the arrow, and the hawk are all one unit, meeting and killing the other which is really the self at the same time. Yet it is all forordained to happen in that way. A moment in time where the arrow leaves the hand. A bird falls and the hunter feels it in his heart as if he were dying. We all do this.
The earth itself in it's physical condition is a fluke caused by a curse, according to the Gnostics and Cathars, and a few other groups. The earth was not meant to be this solid and unyielding, and only became that way because of the Demurge, who is an Aeon gone bad. He is what is symbolically meant by the curse Adam and Eve got from eating the apple. He was the one who actually is responsible for the curse of physical hardship. It isn't that way everywhere, as you know. The astral world isn't like earth, though there are some worlds like it I have heard. I really don't know, but in any case I think that physical reality isn't supposed to be this way, it just is because someone made it this way... after creation, but before civilization. The astral world feels as real as this one when you are truely in it, but it isn't as inflexible and difficult and annoying. Thought is action in many worlds, but here it hurts to move sometimes. The weight of our bodies, and the difficulty in making things is just part of this unnatural situation. Anyway that is the belief of Gnostics and Cathars. I believe like they do, but don't accept the way they wanted to fix it, which was to refuse to have sex till people died out.... it didn't work for them, because no one would agree, except the most devout, so I don't think we can do that. I don't want to try. I think we just have to do what we can to make things better, and wait till this dispensation is over.
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Post by lordazurath on Oct 23, 2007 15:18:58 GMT -5
mm.. since you said something about reality. a point i have been wondering about for a while now.
i think what we see, we mistake as reality, where in truth. it is only what we want to see. I think that this realm is made by the millions of peoples conscience's all intertwinded to form a world exactly as everyone wants, but since no two people can want exactly the same, its all different.
and this reality, its not real, the touching, smells, sights, everything is just a part that we think is true, we are only here in mind, but not in entirety.
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Post by KG on Oct 24, 2007 2:40:34 GMT -5
I think you are right about people creating their own sort of reality... seeing what they want to see, or at least expect to see. That is why all the talk about positive thinking. If you use it right it works, at least to a point. In other worlds it works a lot better though.
You are exactly right though in saying this world isn't real. It isn't. It is all an illusion, but a powerful one all the same. It seems impossible to escape from the illusion entirely though. We are trapped in these physical forms that tend to hold us here, both mentally and physically, only the spirit is free.
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