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Post by Kata Samoes on Nov 17, 2006 10:30:24 GMT -5
Let us start with the most basic form of mediumship. Chanelling. This is an open "port" that allows spirits to speak through us, without having them speak via entering our bodies (invokation).
Those who use this ability have the option of how the "message" will be delivered. Memory via telepathy, automatice writing/typing, tranced speech.
Make sense, or should I explain more?
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Post by ~Sephity~ on Nov 17, 2006 19:59:24 GMT -5
It makes sense, but it could be a good idea to elaborate a little bit, on the different forms of channeling. That is if you have experience or have researched it.
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Post by KG on Nov 18, 2006 13:01:57 GMT -5
I find your differentiation between channeling and invokation fascinating. I never thought of it. I know that people have a house, home or astral castle so to speak. That is how I and many other people visualize it anyway. It is a home, for the spiritual force or higher self, and also the psyche in a way. The house is most documented by multiple personalities, or multiple souls, as I prefer to think of them, because in order to function, they have to be aware of their house and its inhabitants. My home, is a temple, which I have made into a castle like home. IN my living room I have a huge white sofa, when I channel, I have trusted guardians come into my living room, and I sit on my sofa, and the person I speak to sits beside me.
We talk, and those accustomed to doing this can type through my fingers, but those not used to it, just talk while I type what they say.
This is different than just talking to someone on the astral, and typing what they say, but I do that too. I sometimes meet them at their place, and talk in their homes, other times it is nutral ground, and those times feel very different, but I do like to be able to type what happens, because sometimes my memory is foggy and I like to remeber exactly what was said.
Now with Gary; he lives with me. He is a perminant resident in my house, and my most trusted friend, lover, gardian person. We live as a co-conscious multiple and he is always with me. He can have control at any time he wants, but he isn't pushy about it, unless it is some emergency, and I don't know what to do. Generally if he feels comfortable he will slide his two cents into a conversation I am having, but most people don't know. Some sense it, and wonder what happened, but I try to cover it. Still it is obvious at times to people who know me well. Is he perminately invoked?
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Post by Kata Samoes on Nov 18, 2006 22:48:25 GMT -5
Invokation deals with voluntarily bringing outside beings into you, and allowing them taking temporary control , as opposes to possession where they force their way in (if not already there) and force control.
He simply lives in you, as a part of you in a way. In your body, and there's no reason why not to call the event of when you communicate what he said is chanelling.
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Post by Wunderkind on Feb 15, 2007 15:36:00 GMT -5
Hm... Then now I get it. :3 I channel and my sister both channels AND invokes. Of course invoking can be deadly... Luckily the worst that ever happened to us was a blue blob taking over her body. But I took care of that by stating that if it didn't leave I'd wack her upside the head with her hole puncher (don't ask if I'd do it..... She'd forgive me... XD)
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Post by Del on Feb 23, 2007 0:36:22 GMT -5
Mem.....how's the guy with the curly blonde hair?
And what's with the ':3' ? Supposed to be eyes and what else?
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Post by ~Sephity~ on Feb 23, 2007 6:07:43 GMT -5
Alll i can remember is a white couch, that's like all i've ever remembered KG
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Post by Wunderkind on Feb 23, 2007 14:47:27 GMT -5
Mem.....how's the guy with the curly blonde hair? And what's with the ':3' ? Supposed to be eyes and what else? Cain? We went our seperate ways after E and I had a temporary falling out. ":3"= basically. Pitty-pat (cat) face.
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Post by a'Lan Mandragoran on Feb 23, 2007 19:09:27 GMT -5
*mews*
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Post by Wunderkind on Feb 25, 2007 13:22:37 GMT -5
*Puffs up and hisses*
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Post by linkpwnsmario on Feb 26, 2007 22:32:51 GMT -5
KG, i am impressed with your talent. I am far from being able to make things that clear, but I'm working on it. I end up becoming a ray of light, levitating with all white around me; a white room, i assume.
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Post by KG on Feb 27, 2007 1:33:34 GMT -5
Thank you, that is sweet of you to say. It is nice now that I have learned to control it, but it used to be really frightening when I was a kid. I saw a lot of entities around me, and most of them weren't very attractive. (I saw a lot of astral monsters and such.) It was very disturbing cause I saw them at that time as clearly as I saw physical people, but no one else I knew could see them. It was frightening because I had to learn to judge "real" from "imaginary" based on what was likely to really be there. I learned that some things just don't exist in the real world, and that real physical people can't just appear and disappear, they can't walk through walls etc. It was still confusing at times. Plus I had to pretend not to see some really creepy stuff, because I didn't want people to know I was crazy. LOL Even as an adult you have to do that. I mean you can't go talking to entities in front of people, and if you are astrally attacked you have to handle it coolly if you are in a crowd of people.
People percieve things in different ways. When I see a person in the physical, I see first their physical appearance, and simultaneously I empath them... at least usually to some degree. I usually just get an overall mood, or feeling usually. I look another way and see their aura, if it is apparent. I can look into their eyes and possibly catch a glempse of another entity within that possibly lives there. That varies, and those things don't show all the time. If I look for it, I might see their higher self or astral form, or I might sense it and know what it is, but then I might not.
It is the same on the astral. Some people see a physical form, others see the aura or energy of a person, place or thing. Still others see its true self or higher form. Sometimes you just see a person APing, but other times you see an angel, or whatever they truely are. Others just empath or "FEEL" entities... all of these work, and one is no better than the other. Appearance is a variable, and it is possible our mind fills in the details based on an energy signature, in much the same way all those rods and cones in the eye somehow form a mental picture which you can recall. I am not certain at all that we always see the physical form in the astral every time, as much as we recognize the energy, of a person and fill in the details... still I have met people on the astral, and later recognized them, sometimes by energy, sometimes by appearance, and sometimes both... even by voice once or twice. Really though I am not sure it is better to see specific shapes or just read the energy.
Some say the mind creates the apprearance of a being to a large degree. I don't always find that to be true, but I think it is at times. If you think about it, it is true in the physical realm too. Suppose you are talking to a close relative or friend that you see every day. You seem to look at them, but usually you are just filling in with what you are used to seeing. You already know what they look like, so you don't always "See" every detail all over again. For example when people get a hair cut... you might notice, or might not. You may not be able to recall what they were wearing, or you might even guess wrong or remember seeing something they wore yesterday or last month. Our brains fill in the details we don't catch with our eyesight in the natural and in the astral... and sometimes energy is a truer reading of who someone is than appearance, especially if you are involved in battles. It is possible to fake an appearance, so that one person could pass for another by way of illusion, but familiar energy is much harder to counterfiet.
I don't think the energic view is any less accurate than the apparently physical view. I just see physical looking entities. I always have, but I am not sure it is better. I have also learned to read energies more because that has become important.
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Post by iedfuuembuutu on Dec 23, 2010 22:33:00 GMT -5
I have never channeled a spirit or entity. My usual encounters with spirits are always extremely deep and personal so I have no need to bring out any further then my mind. But what I have learned to channel is the energy in my body. (if this is off topic please move it to a more appropriate place. I just thought it fit here.) I have learned to focus a great amount of my energy to any point of my body. I was wondering does this have deeper levels to it
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Post by KG on Dec 24, 2010 4:27:52 GMT -5
I have never channeled a spirit or entity.
I've channeled quite a bit with Gary mostly... but also with other entities. I do not control it. With Gary I wouldn't want to. He does and says whatever he wants, but he's always good, and doesn't get me into trouble... he usually gets me out of trouble if anything. LOL Gary keeps all the other entities on their best behavior, or I would be afraid to do it. I would not want to give just anything the power I give to Gary.
We never stay on topic. LOL I have a complete inability to categorize anyway. I can't even sort buttons on a first grade level. To me, no two anythings are exactly alike. Something that happened during my blackout apparently. (shrugs) This is a fine place to discuss it as far as I am concerned.
Sounds like Kundalini Yoga, (not sure I spelled that right... don't feel like looking it up.) It's also part of, Neidan, qigong, neigong, tao yin, and many other forms of eastern meditation and practice. These sorts of things are usually accompanied by breathing exercises... and then there are rotations or cycles, where one focuses the energy from one point to the other... till it rotates through all the chakras.
Learning to focus energy is a major part of spiritual practice. There are certain ways that come natural to us, and others that we have to learn, but I believe people should do both, using both instinctive patterns, and learned patterns, until the learned patterns become instinctive also. If it feels totally wrong though, I think a person should not do that exercise. Some exercises are not for everyone, and still others require practice and perhaps instruction to get right.
You can find out more by researching Yoga, and some of the other eastern practices I just listed. I tend to be self styled in my energy practices, and fairly spur of the moment, but I have learned a few basic traditional patterns from the internet. I'm not completely sure I do them exactly right though... I am really bad about adapting things to suit me, so it would be better to go to an authoritative source.
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Post by Kata Samoes on Dec 29, 2010 1:55:36 GMT -5
Channeling energy is the first step to being a medium, if one chose. To channel a spirit, is to channel some of their energy.
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