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Post by ~Sephity~ on Jan 5, 2006 19:44:13 GMT -5
8-)So tell us what YOU think.
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Post by ~Sephity~ on Jan 5, 2006 19:46:00 GMT -5
-Me, personally? Why I think it's pretty damn cool, Sephity.
-Thanks!
-Jo welcome. *bows*
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Post by Velen on Jan 5, 2006 23:41:37 GMT -5
I don't know enough about it to choose. I don't know what's real and what's not in that particular area. But from hearing from some people, it sounds okay if it's their thing, but hearing from others, it sounds a little boring. Well, what do you (specifically) do with it?
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Post by ~Sephity~ on Jan 6, 2006 17:57:19 GMT -5
Me? Nothing....lol. I havn't doen any magick but it does have some upsides and prac. uses. from what I know from my #1 source on magick *nudge nudge*. You can slow down or speed up time and stuff. I think it's just one of those things that might not seem like it has a lot of uses in the beginning, but can benefit in the end.
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Post by stonerwolf on Jan 7, 2006 2:34:09 GMT -5
i've always desired a conscious awareness of the flow of time, so that i might assert myself with difference frequencies to, say, make time around me to appear to be frozen, or move in super slow motion. i'd love to look into magick even if it has nothing to do with time or fireballs always expanding my open mind
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Post by Promethius on Jan 8, 2006 19:32:04 GMT -5
I think Magic (I think it should be spelled as it regularly is) is fairly cool. I voted for the thing up top just because I was special like that. But anyways. I think everyone uses it in one way or the other. [/color]
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Post by ~Sephity~ on Jan 10, 2006 18:42:56 GMT -5
The reason I say "Magick" is because MOST people, when you say "magic" automatically think stage magic. The magick I'm speaking of, and the magic that's on stage, are two diff. things, not totally diff., but diff.
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Post by Promethius on Jan 10, 2006 21:51:09 GMT -5
Im aware that Crowley (sp?) added the "k" to the end of the magic to diffrinciate the two terms ...but they're the same thing. Most people in this forum would know what "magic" is anyways, so I dont think the term "Magick" is necessary.
Magic: The art that purports to control or forecast natural events, effects, or forces by invoking the supernatural.
Magick: An action or effort undertaken because of a personal need to effect change, especially as associated with Wicca or Wiccan beliefs.
Same thing.
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Post by Shadow of Light on Jan 11, 2006 8:07:21 GMT -5
Well to most the difference between them is nothing but you do get people who are very touchy about the spelling or correct term for the word. I've just become accustomed to using magick directly because of all the complications it caused me in the past to refer to magic, but I generally agree that it's the concept behind the terms or words that matter.
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Post by stonerwolf on Jan 11, 2006 16:21:07 GMT -5
let's say mana, i like mana better it is like the converted energy used to perform magic, let's say
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Post by KG on Jan 13, 2006 12:56:03 GMT -5
Personally I like to spell magic this way. I think it is a very general topic, and there are a lot of different ways to think of it and use it. Magic to me is anything not redily explainable by the science of the day. If you could travel back in time 500 years, with a lighter, a shot gun, a chainsaw, and a car you would be a powerful magician. Just like in the Movie Evil Dead III. Someday science will discover a way to test the Chakras, and we will go in for Chakra Skans the same way we do x-rays and cat scans now. Maybe they will even come up with tests for the thickness of the veil, and there will be warnings about that the way their are warnings of the Ozone now. Right now science isn't interested in our spiritual technology. I am not really sure if this is a good thing or a bad thing, judging from the mess they make of things they tamper with.
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Post by Kata Samoes on Nov 15, 2006 19:57:10 GMT -5
Magick cannot be defined, unless you understand one simple concept.
"We wish, we will, we have."
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Post by KG on Nov 16, 2006 1:57:05 GMT -5
Can you tell me more about the middle step Kata? The will? What exactly does it mean to will something? I mean I know the dictionary meaning, but how exactly? I have a lot of hard to explain questions about the will centers, and how will works. Does it have anything to do with determination, like grit, or is it driven by extreme desire. I alwas used faith like believing it would happen. I don'd do magick exactly though... unless you count disappering a quarter? I can make larger sums disappear too, but I requre a grocery store, or a trip to the mall to do that. LOL ;D I don't know maybe I do things similar to magic, but I never called it that. Though I have thought of coining the phrase faith based magic. I learned that ability from an old evangelist back in the seventies. As for what I think about magic(k) well that depends on the magician. I have seen it used for good purposes. I have seen it used to harm. I have seen that it can do great harm in the wrong hands, but when it does... well there is always Karma. Kim
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Post by Kata Samoes on Nov 16, 2006 16:44:37 GMT -5
Can you tell me more about the middle step Kata? The will? What exactly does it mean to will something? I mean I know the dictionary meaning, but how exactly? I have a lot of hard to explain questions about the will centers, and how will works. Does it have anything to do with determination, like grit, or is it driven by extreme desire. I alwas used faith like believing it would happen. "We wish." The idea, the first concept and step in the working process (generally called magick). This idea is then motivated by the act and fact the originator is wanting of it, and so it manifests into a state of probability (not possibility, mind you). "We will." This can be trickier to understand, but bear with me a bit. The will is a force within the mind of humans (in our case, however it can differ with other 'kin). Using this force, it acts as motivation to propel the Wish (idea/concept wanted) from probability into possibility. Within possibility, there are several factors involved for the formula. These include up to, or all: 1. Time 2. Space 3. Method 4. Karma 5. Influence Sometimes, depending on the working, other factors may be involved. However, step two ("We will.") is where many beginners (and some beyond) may and can fault. If you doubt, AT ALL, you will not obtain the said object/event/occurance that you are wanting, the possibility can decrease or disappear completely. "We have." Success, and failure. This is where karma can kick in, if not stalled (as can happen). The success lies in where the event/occurance/object is obtained. The failure lies in: where, when, how, and even why. This affects other people, not just YOU. Hence the warnings you may hear from magick users (fake/new and not) about what you wish for, because you CAN suffer for it. This discludes, however only on majority, acts of selflessness/"good." Helping others, healing, whatever it is you might do for another. Remember, however, helping others CAN be an act of selfishness. Any other questions?
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Post by stonerwolf on Nov 16, 2006 17:15:03 GMT -5
i wish i was never born.
how the F**k do i will that?!
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