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Post by Del on Apr 2, 2008 21:44:43 GMT -5
I understand where you're coming from. Humans are a relatively new race. We may have the potential to grow stronger/bigger/more enlightened. But I do believe that this physical plane still henders us. Relatively new and young. Like Xav pointed out about being limited, I believe humans are being given a chance to ascend from where they are {there's a difference between being human and having a human experience}. They can remain as such, and will just have to redo the whole trial over again until they get it right...it's like creating a new product or an experiment. You want it to do something, but it turns out doing something else. Well you either change the environment that will have a direct influence on this evolution you wish to see, or to modify the subject....which could be tricky because then you'd no longer have 'human' but something else, which defeats the whole purpose. Humans are here to learn to grow, there are others here to guide them, and those that do grow will evolve and those that do not will have to try again. {my POV}
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Post by KG on Apr 2, 2008 23:02:12 GMT -5
I like what you guys are saying. I think that humans are capable of evolving, but what about the soul? I mean we have angels in human bodies here on the earth... and while they are here they are human in form, and I guess in thought. Like Mem said, a lizzard feels differently than humans. Doesn't an angel feel differently in heaven, than he does in his human body? Xav is pretty close to perfection, but I am sure he has those regular human emotions just like the rest of us. I know I do.
I'll use myself as an example. I am in the astral, the Madonna of Mercy, a very minor Aeon, and a soul that is only 2000 years old, as compared to Xav's ancient soul. Maybe I am wrong, but I don't think though that most of my immaturity, stupidity, and ignorance comes from my higher self. It seems to originate in my human body, and mind. I hate this thing actually. I find it so darned stupid and confining. Here on earth I am not always merciful. I am not always kind and good. I try but sometimes I have a headache, and that makes me cranky, and sometimes I just get sick of putting up with certain things.
Now the thing is that I always feel justified at the time, but a lot of stuff I get ticked off about in my human form is just downright petty. Other stuff might be important to deal with in some way, but I tend to make a lot of mistakes. Overall being in a human physical body is kind of limiting, not just because of the body being on this plane, but because of the physical brain that we process things through.
In a sense I am human, and Aeon, I sometimes feel it is nutty to even think I am an Aeon, because I am so human in my thinking, but I experience it. I don't always feel though that I have Mercy's wisdom, and even so... or at least I don't always connect with my higher self before taking action, or running my mouth. Mercy is impetuious and for an Aeon probably not all that bright. She has her own conflicts... and my soul has a lot of past life trauma as well, so really "I" as I appear in my daily life, am a product of my humanity, my past humanity, and my Aeon higher self. In addition to that I believe I have other astral lives, which I experience from time to time, but don't have constant awareness of. I suppose these lives influence me too.
I know that other people have astral lives that they aren't aware of on any level. I also know that sometimes when they do become aware of something they experience it as a dream, or a sort of thought/daydream which they dismiss easily. I really think a lot of people are in that category of semi awareness, and non awareness, but they do have an astral form, and an astral existance somewhere.
I was just wondering if you thought that most people had an otherkin or angelic or other type of astral form other than human? I have found that people perpetually exist in heaven, even while incarnate. So they are incarnate, in heaven, and also perhaps have another astral form, maybe dozens of astral, and spiritual forms for all I know... and there is a good chance they are unaware of any of it.
I agree with Del that there are new souls, and some of them may not have other forms, but I think a lot of unaware people are active on the astral realm. A lot more don't understand what is going on in the same terms we do. They may understand it better, or not as well, but I am sure a lot of people understand what is going on in far different terms than we do.
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Post by Wunderkind on Apr 11, 2008 21:56:43 GMT -5
I am not sure if I would consider it evolving, but I know my own soul goes through cycles, almost like how a snake sheds its skin.
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