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Post by ~Sephity~ on Jun 8, 2007 22:16:28 GMT -5
It all started with a bunch of friend getting a Ouiji Board. They stated talking to a girl named "Victoria." They would talk to Victoria all the time, she would always tell them stuff about herself. She'd tell them her hair color, her eyecolor, how tall she was, etc. Then one day they were talking to her, and they asked her what it was like to be dead. She said "It was pretty sweet." They asked if she had special powers, and she said yes. They then asked what she could do, and she asked what they wanted her to do. There was a cat sitting on a counter and they asked her if she could make the cat levitate. She said "Yea, sure." and so the peice on the Ouija board started spinning real fast. It flew off the board and hit the cat, and it jumped up in the air like it was levitating. So now, they were all really hooked on the Ouija Board. Then one day they came home and asked her if she could see them. "Yea, I can see yall." They thought it was freaky, and asked how she could see them. She responded, "the mirrors." So they stuck one of them in a room with a mirror, while the rest were with the Ouija board. They checked to make sure they were sitting by the mirror and the rest were out of the room with the Ouija board. They asked her to tell them what the girl was doing in the bathroom. The Ouija board spelt out "T-O-N-G-U-E." They looked at it for a second and yelled "Tongue?" Then they heard a scream as the girl bolted from the bathroom. After this they were all extremely hooked into the Ouija Board and "Victoria". After a few days they came back to the Ouija board to talk to her. They started asking questions, then the top started spinning wildely. They asked real serious, "Victoria, are you alright?" Then the response was "Oh, yea." They asked again, "this isn't Victoria is it?" Then the entity answered "No, it's not." So they asked who it was. The response was spelled out "S-A-T-A-N." After that the group got rid of the board and became really 'close to god'.
This is a true story. I want to ask what yall think about it, and what you all think of the entity.
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Post by wolfblade25 on Apr 14, 2008 15:41:03 GMT -5
They say that its pretty foolish to mess with those because 9/10 there are dark entities that play tricks and what not like that. I dont doubt that the story could all too well be possible. but wow....thats wild stuff. I was told that one of the main foolish things people do when trying to "commune with the dead" is doing it in a dark setting. Doing so can manafest dark entities not only in the surrounding, but within ourselves.
I dont quite believe that the being was "satan".....but Satan is much more of a malevolent concept in western logic...Like how Nazi is more of a world wide broad negative connotation for the small political party. Maybe a negative being fueled by the people's energy and curiosity accumulated with its own desires. Ive also heard of accounts of people being possessed and haunted just from trying to mess with one of those boards.
Either way, too much craziness for me to even attempt to try......I love the elements, but im not about to play with fire just cus i heard it looks pretty...if u know my meaning. But thank you very much for sharing the story with all of us. A very interesting read indeed.
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Post by Wunderkind on Apr 24, 2008 19:51:12 GMT -5
Yeah, this is why they can be so creepy. Mel has one at her house, I refuse to have it in mine. xD We used one a lot of times and were lucky that only our guides got through to us. =)
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Post by stonerwolf on Apr 25, 2008 10:14:28 GMT -5
i highly doubt it was ever 'victoria' let alone 'satan', seeing as how satan is supposedly transelated to "enemy". saying you are satan is the same as saying you are enemy.
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Post by dania on Apr 25, 2008 14:39:34 GMT -5
Ouija boards are only as dangerous as anything ELSE used to contact spirits. The amount of danger involved depends on the experience, skill and common sense of the practitioner!
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Post by Xavrael on Apr 25, 2008 16:06:57 GMT -5
Yar...If anything is to be said about the practice of Necromancy...the ritualistic kind anyway, communing with the dead always involved the formation of a circle of protection of some sort for exactly that reason...not to be toyed with malevolent spirits.
With Quija boards...there arn't any. And they got real lucky - a lot of times malevolent spirits get stuck to those who use the boards and tend to follow them around sometimes. Other times it can lead to possession. Supposedly anyway.
Case in point, my mom when she was younger used to have a friend who's mother was heavily steeped in voodoo. So naturally that = Ouija board madness (sarcasm). Needless to say, my mom somehow got something that was pretending to be her deceased biological father, but more likely than not was that it was something else because as she was walking to her friends house, she began to levitate, which naturally freaked her the hell out. They went to her friends house to get help from her friend's voodoo priestess mother, who in turn also began levitate when she tried to cleanse my mom. According to her, the voodoo woman began to mumble as she did her thing, eventually getting that spirit away. Pretty much why my mom has such an aversion to the supernatural (she gets worried when i mention im not afraid of ghosts and what goes on in those "Haunted" shows on the discovery channel).
So...yeah. Then again, Faith can help too so that was a contributing factor IMO. In either case, thanks for sharing ^_^
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Post by KG on Apr 25, 2008 17:14:49 GMT -5
I've never found a reliable spirit on a ouiji board. They tend to attract low level entities that know very little. Usually you get those creepy little things that tell you what you want to hear, or say something just to scare you. I think there is no substitute for meditation, and getting to the higher level entities.
I've played with a Ouiji board as a kid. I got it to work, but every thing I contacted gave me the creeps. I find that to be true, but possibly because of the mood most people get into when they use them. They turn the lights off, use some candles, and usually it is kids playing with it, so they are scared, and enjoying that creepy horror movie feeling, so maybe that is why they get spooky stuff, but I've never seen a higher use for them. I can't imagine an angel for instance speaking through a Ouiji board.
In general though at "that age" or "stage of spiritual interest, we want to make contact. We want to prove tha things exist outside the physical, and due to our culture we think those things will be creepy.
I enjoy a good horror movie more than most people, but they teach that the astral is full of extreemly powerful spooky things. In movies book cases get thrown across the room, buildings explode, and blood runs in rivers from the walls, but in real life... nothing so dramatic ever happens. In real life a glass bowl might levitate and fly across the room, or a picture might fall off a shelf... but no explosions without dinamite or at least 5 gallons of gasoline... and who can afford that. LOL In fact even the small levitating object is rare. There are psychic researchers who wait their whole lives to photograph or document a case of something like that. MOst of the time life is dull, and those spooky little entities tend to liven things up, but they don't know the meaning of life, or how to make things better for you.
Overall it's best not to get caught up in low level entities. People who talk to real souls don't find them to be creepy or really any different than anyone else. Even earthbound souls aren't generally creepy, but there are little fragments of people... not souls, and little bits of energy that are very creepy. They are also numerous... They are called pain bodies, and spirits... and they are not the real deal human soul... but they are plentiful. I saw them first as a child, and I was scared to death. They have an errie feel and they look twisted and awful usually. Little girls with their thoats cut, decaying dead bodies, beautiful women with teeth like a shark... terrifying nonsense, but this is the lowest imination... the bottom of the barrel of psychic phenomonon... well except for those eel and octopus looking things that get stuck in your chakras like bugs in a lamp globe... they are probably the absolute bottom of the barrel.
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Post by dania on Apr 25, 2008 18:02:08 GMT -5
A Ouija board is a tool, that is all. It could very well be that the people who tend to use them (especially the Parker Brother's version, which is sold as a game) are not very serious practitioners, and don't know anything at all about keeping bad entities away.
The Ouija board, in and of itself, is just a tool. It is absolutely no different from using a pendulum (if you use a pendulum to contact spirits). It's no different from trance channeling, or contacting entities through scrying.
The only difference that I see is that it is marketed towards people who have no experience whatsoever, as a game, and popularized (and 'demonized') by movies...which tends to make people go "OOO, let's conjure something scary!!!!"
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Post by stonerwolf on Apr 25, 2008 19:59:45 GMT -5
history has proven time and again that people are stupid, go figure
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Post by dania on Apr 25, 2008 21:47:44 GMT -5
What gets me is that people think that Ouija boards are super scary dangerous and everything else is somehow safe. It's simply not true.
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Post by Wunderkind on Apr 26, 2008 19:46:30 GMT -5
LOL, I have to agree with Dania. The first time I ever used a board things turned out great. But looking back on it after thinking about what Dania said, we never had any malicious intent. It wasn't made by Parker Bros. and it quite pretty. We just wanted to talk to someone and ask stuff, just like how little girls look to 8 balls and the like. I think because of that we didn't draw any unwanted attention, and instead ended up talking to my sis' spirit guide instead. All things considered, he was quite patient.
You know what I want to do some day. I want to research the concept of voodoo and see if I can create a version that does good instead of harm. x3
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Post by KG on Apr 26, 2008 21:39:28 GMT -5
I agree with Dania that it is a tool. It is all a matter of what you do with something, and the energy that is on an object before you get it too. We all know that crystal balls and Tarot cards absorb the energy of their users and that is what makes them work, (if they work at all) they become an extension of the person's spiritual power, just as a guitarist puts his energy into his guitar, and an old woman puts her energy into her quilting loom... it is what we use, and therefore it has the power of the user. Most people who use crystal balls to gaze, are very picky about whom they let handle them. One of my friends let me use her crystal ball once. It was cool because I felt her soul when I picked it up. I didn't realize before what it would be like, to touch it but despite it's cool surface I felt like I had her heart in my hands... and she was very uneasy the whole time I held it. Later she told me that if our energies had been incompatable enough, it was possible that the ball would have shattered. I found that very interesting.
Now my friend was not a perfect person, but she had pretty good energy, and was decent. She practiced white magic, and some Christian beliefs. She was into angels a lot... and I realized after that experince that I would not want to touch just anybody's crystal ball. I suppose it would be the same with a Ouiji board, or anything else someone had pumped a lot of energy into, though crystal does conduct more than most things.
Other than the attitude of present and past users, I dont' see how it could be bad of itself, but I don't think that most people need to be messing with it. IT brings up certain associations in the minds of a lot of people... and once the mind goes to that creepy I am going to talk to a ghost or demon attitude... well the entities that are thought of are called... the emotion that is extended is matched with something similar on the astral realm. I always find that you get what you call. If you call angels you get angels, if you call on demons you get demons, and if you extend an invitation to creepy things on the etherial layer with certain emotions... they will answer too. Once a spirit bonds with a tool like that, they would always be linked to it. A year or two after I used my Ouiji board I destroyed it. I got to thinking about what it said, and realized it was playing me, and that it lied. I found out later the things it said about someone were complete lies. Even though it did spell them out. IT didn't just do the yes/no thing it spelled out information for me... and that information was all lies. They were plausable only because i didn't know the situation. When I found out the situation, I learned that it was all lies.
Fruther I closed my eyes for each letter, until it stopped. I wasn't cheating. so I proved to myself that some sentient astral beings lie. Since then I have found many lying spirits on that level of the astral. Those lower level entities just make up stories that entice us or interest us, or confirm our craziest suspicions.
Now Mem brought up a point... if you could contact your spirit guide through them that would be just fine... but really mine types and that is much easier for me... I guess I could call Gary my spirit guide... he's more than that to me, but he is that. Anyway if your spirit guide doesn't type, and you could talk him/her into using a Ouiji board then that would be fine.
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Post by Wunderkind on Apr 26, 2008 23:37:52 GMT -5
Oh, typing is much easier. Once we learned to "speak" and channel on our own things were much faster. I am unable to channel like Mel does. She can give her whole body to it, while I only share minds with the being (she does that too). It was really awkward to be around her when she channeled my mate. I wanted to jump her. xD Then I was like, "reality check, same energy, wrong body!" XD On the plus side, she only channels around me. I think that's because she (and all other entities who have dared to not leave) take me seriously when I say I'll crack her over the head with a hole puncher. xD
She knows I love her enough to hurt her. =D That's true sisterhood! XD
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Post by dania on Apr 27, 2008 9:01:17 GMT -5
Voodoo isn't inherently harmful either. It all depends on the intent of the practitioner. Voodoo, just like any other practice, can be used for good or ill.
Well of course spirits lie, just like humans lie. Too many people seem to think that because it's a spirit it has to be fine upstanding never lying never cheating pinnacle of moral goodness. Simply not true.
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Post by Xavrael on Apr 27, 2008 13:32:03 GMT -5
Yeeah... Voodoo is a combo of catholic and tribal traditions (saints to Loa, etc.) and is heavily steeped in superstition (burying their dead with toe nail clippings and some other stuff to keep the dead from coming back as zombies for instance...)
You have your "good" voodoo, practiced by the priests and priestess (and High Priest/ess) and you have the "evil" or dark which is practiced by Boccors (spelling? Bokors, bokkors, whatever) who often invoke the darker natured Loa (like Baron Samedi, Loa dealing with death) and another one but i forgot its name just to sort of give an idea.
While not inherently evil, the dark witchdoctors tend to concoctions and harmful hexes. But like Dania said. the practice of voodoo itself is not evil (hell...some practitioners have said that in order to be a good voodoo follower you have to be a good catholic. Its an opinion yes, but its a part of their tradition regardless).
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