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Post by Wunderkind on Jan 13, 2006 15:08:06 GMT -5
Hey there, I was just wondering if anyone has seen elementals and if so how they are perceived or what form they take.Elementals: A single and pure (untouched, not a combo, etc) element that has taken on a solid and visible form while retaining consciousness on a common level (the simplest definition I can think of lol). My curiosity is that today a bunch of elementals came here and we kind of adopted each other. Each of these elementals have a basic layout/form of a snake with dagger tipped arms. The earth is made from rocks, mud, vines, and flowers. The fire is made from fire ( ). The water is made from water ( again : The air is made form air (all those pretty little chemicals lol). Later maybe I will be able to get a sketch on here.
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Post by KG on Jan 14, 2006 0:59:32 GMT -5
That is very interesting, and no I have never seen a true elemental. I have read about them, and know basically what they are, but I have never encountered one in the astral.
If you learn more please keep us posted. This is facinating!
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Post by stonerwolf on Jan 14, 2006 1:47:28 GMT -5
i've always philosophised about the elementals... and i have figured that the four base earth elements can be used to invoke any other element, such as how earth and water shed life (nature), or water and fire can create electricity (evaporation, clouds)... im still deeply pondering these such things, and i dont know how magnetism can be created with the earth elements... if anyone has any links pertaining to the elements beyond earth, fire, wind, and water (or as i like to refer to them as storm earth and fire ) i'd really appreciate the links ESPECCIALLY if they name the spirits of the elements, such as Ifrit of fire, and Undine of water...
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Post by Wunderkind on Jan 14, 2006 9:52:46 GMT -5
Hmm the elements I know of are water, earth, fire, air - wind is apparently separate from air. Then there is dark and light. Also I know ice is a sub division of water and that there is frozen fire too... I also know that each element can be divided into two parts- their dark part and their light part. When separating let's say a balance bit of water you take the lighter aspect away from the darker aspect of it. Just a note: light and dark are elements and both have the potential to cause harm or help.
My elementals tend to group and react according to their natural order.
Fire will hang out with air because they can co-exist without harming each-other (plus fire likes to ride the air). Earth will hang with water because they fascinate each-other. A game they will play is water will combine with earth and then earth will spit out water. Water seems curious as to how earth's leaves already had water in them and yet earth seem to have had little to no contact with another elemental. Earth wants to know how water can separate and combine itself so quickly.
When fire touches water they turn into steam (which hurts them or at least gives them some unpleasant feeling) so air has to gather the water particles and give the back to water.
They are also like the elements are described in most books. Though they don't really have a gender they lean towards the feeling of one on a near non-existent manner.
Fire: Male Water: Female Earth: Female Air: Male
Btw they all have chosen their names (air's name is near impossible to spell since this is english and the language the name is in is in another language with complex syllables...grrrrr- drove me up the wall).
The reason why I was wondering about true elementals is that I've encountered other things you could call elementals (but if you use my above definition they wouldn't apply). Like there is usually an elemental animal for each species- these are usually creatures with the basic looks of their race, but the qualities of thier element. One such example would be an elemental fire horse (a Volc as they are sometimes called). They have their horse form with the qualities of fire. Their pelt is red going down to black stockings (how far a mark goes up their leg), while the mane and tail are made of fire. They also tend to have fire on their fetlocks.
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Post by Shadow of Light on Jan 14, 2006 13:47:58 GMT -5
Personally I disagree with that idea, as wind is just air in motion. Some people may say wind instead of air from time to time, myself included but that's probably because that's the time when we can perceive the effect of air but then again to each their own.
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Post by Promethius on Jan 14, 2006 17:20:09 GMT -5
Hmm...well I generally disagree with what you said up top ^_^. I do agree with shadow about Air and Wind not being apart. Hmm the elements I know of are water, earth, fire, air - wind is apparently separate from air. Then there is dark and light. Also I know ice is a sub division of water and that there is frozen fire too... I also know that each element can be divided into two parts- their dark part and their light part. When separating let's say a balance bit of water you take the lighter aspect away from the darker aspect of it. Just a note: light and dark are elements and both have the potential to cause harm or help. You've lost me, sweets. Since when are 'dark' and 'light' elements? ? How exactly do you seperate them into their dark and light parts??? They wouldnt be elements anymore if they were 'darker' or 'lighter', would they? Anywho. Interesting stuff.
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Post by Wunderkind on Jan 14, 2006 18:00:37 GMT -5
I don't know if air/wind are separate. I only mentioned that because I recall reading somewhere something about different cultures and properties and whatnot- I was hoping someone would clarify that (which is why I said apparently). I haven't encountered anything suggesting they are either. ;D I'm not really sure how to go about explaining the separation of light and dark from elements. Essentially it is a simple process and very easy to do after you've done it for the first time. Anyway, as far as I know light and dark are and have always been elements (though I haven't seen an elemental I have encountered solid properties of the element- like crystals of darkness). My own element is light actually (though I have a thing for fire and water). I'll try my best to explain anyway. Here's to hopefulness lol^^; Subject: Water Water is the easiest to separate light and dark from. Like all other things water must maintain it's balance (think yin and yang I guess). All you would have to do is split the light from the dark.... Just feeling around the element until you feel a connection joining its personality together (kind of like a glued line). Once that separation is found it is easy to take it apart and divide the element into halves (which means if you were looking at the water astrally you should have two different entities). My water elemental likes its balance and will attack anyone who attempts to separate it though xD Another way to think of it is kind of like a math problem (o.O;). W= water D= Dark L=Light W=DL+ the properties of water W- D= WL (water with only the joining light in it). W-L= WD (water with only the joining dark in it). Both WD and WL function just as well as W but W is much more at ease since it has both within it. Bleh.. I hope that makes sense *has a feeling she may of speewed up garbage-y words* I am much more emotions and pictures so feel free to prod until I make sense. ^^;
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Post by Wunderkind on Feb 25, 2007 15:03:08 GMT -5
I wonder if I'll ever post any serious drawings on here. xD Though doodles are fun. :3
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