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Post by a'Lan Mandragoran on Jan 8, 2008 15:21:24 GMT -5
First off, let me say this. A moment ago, something didn't feel right in my area and I couldn't keep myself from deep trancing. It felt like 10 seconds but it was really an hour. When I came back, I had to redo my home work, but one bit of something on a page I was typing caught my attention. I don't know what's going on, and would like any interpritations you may have. I don't know what to make of it at all and Ashira's extreamly worried, as usual, about my mental health. I think she might have cause this time. I had a small bit of a shamanistic vision to go with it, I will discribe that when I can make more sense of the jumble in my skull.
What was writen on a page of what SHOULD have been a technical write up of a program I created:
As darkness sweeps the land a man wakes As children weep in the streets a man makes ready As the sun sets near the deeps the man steps forth The Watcher comes but intends to act
The lost are his and his alone the earth mother knows this one all to well his wait is over and he is free
He is very much alive His voice brims with light His name is inscribed in the book of death He is bright
The life he has is his own it will not be taken away
unlife undeath neither and both
water flows from his feet wind whips from his eyes earth moves in his veins fire rains from his words
he shall not hang, he shall be pierced he fels no pain as is black eyes show
he walks today and shall ver more he is the beginning and yet the end thee before him have come before and none will after it is over it is over blackness envelopes him the world will change and things remain the same let it bee and stay unseen
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Post by Ashira Bloodmoon on Jan 8, 2008 17:01:09 GMT -5
Lan coudln't make sense of it and needed to let this out, so I moved it here for him after looking it over.
Honestly, I'm worried about this one. I don't like the pictures it puts in my head, but then again, I've been more paranoid than usual. Lan's working out what the vision component was to this and having a hard time recalling it. The feeling I got when he told me of this was that something was coming, which is kind of obvious, but the something isn't dark in the conventional sense. I'm not sure though. I will probably be stewing over this a while.
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Post by ~Sephity~ on Jan 8, 2008 18:27:28 GMT -5
It sounds as if it's something natural, and meant to be. Which is prob. why you don't think it's evil in the conventional sense.
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Post by KG on Jan 9, 2008 12:01:07 GMT -5
Don't be upset!!!
Congradulations, you just channeled something very profound from an apparently knowledgable source. It is obviously correct in context... whether it is true in fact, I can't determine, but the mythos all lines up and is obvious. Considering the dire circumstances in the physical and astral plain right now it seems likely to be true in a weird "second comming" appocolyptic, sort of way.
Watchers are part of Sumerian, and Egyptian beliefs. They are possibly even hinted at in the bible. (the Nefilim- Son's of God) I have researched this before, but it would take some more researh to refresh my memory on the exact texts they are in. I am pretty sure they are mentioned in the Egyptian book of the dead. Thus... "his name is written in the book of Death"... it is just exactly as you say. Watchers are entities of extreme power, but they aren't necessarily a bad thing, far from it... they seem to be some sort of powerful righteous dieties - watching the justice and injustices of the world. They have to do with keeping track of right and wrong... I think... though it is hard to understand... as I remember from previous research exactly what their function is.
I gather what you are saying is that a Watcher is now incarnate... somewhere, and that he is getting ready to act. He is living... that is interesting, because these are very high beings. This would be the equivilent to a Messiah... a powerful being who has seen our plight, in the darkness and injustice of the world... the weeping children stirs him to action. This is good! This is very good. Though I do sense he will take vengeance. If this is so we are talking about Wrath of God sort of actions. I am sure however that if the Watchers take action, they will be fair actions, directed at true villians. Good people just have to be careful not to get caught in the crossfire. Other than that, we are safe.
Roughly speaking I'd say the watcher is coming to protect us from evil and injustice. His methods will be powerful, and forceful, but fair. I'm getting shivers, like when those tent preachers talk about Jesus coming back... and it could be that, (The phrase "he will be pierced" really caught my eye... Jesus was pierced in his hands feet and side, and that word in spiritual context often refers to Jesus) but in any case, Christ, similar to Christ, or just on the same side... the watcher is one of the good guys, however full of righteous anger, he will be fair.
You really had no idea what this meant? This is just amazing Lan!!! Keep up the good work!
Kim
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Post by KG on Jan 9, 2008 15:08:16 GMT -5
I FOUND this, From the Paparus of Ani and perhaps I was a bit polly annna about the work of the watchers. It is serious business, and I am no longer sure who's side they are on. This is a lot clearer than some texts on the subject I will continue to research.
"Deliver you the scribe Nebseni, whose word is truth, from the watchers, who carry murderous knives, who possess cruel fingers, and who would slay those who are in the following of Osiris." May these watchers never gain the mastery over me, and may I never fall under their knives! Who are these watchers? "They are Anubis and Horus, [the latter being] in the form of Sightless Horus. Others, however, say that they are the Tchatcha (sovereign princes of Osiris), who bring to nothing the operations of their knives; and others say that they are the chiefs of the Sheniu chamber. "May their knives never gain the mastery over me. May I never fall under the knives wherewith they inflict cruel tortures. For I know their names, and I know the being, Matchet, who is among them in the house of Osiris. He shoots forth rays of light from his eye, being himself invisible, and he goes round about heaven robed in the flames which come from his mouth, commanding Hapi, but remaining invisible himself. May I be strong on earth before Ra, may I arrive safely in the presence of Osiris. O you who preside over your altars, let not your offerings to me be wanting, for I am one of those who follow after Nebertcher, according to the writings of Khepera. Let me fly like a hawk, let me cackle like a goose, let me lay always like the serpent-goddess Neheb-ka." Who are those who preside over their altars? "Those who preside over their altars are the similitude of the Eye of Ra, and the similitude of the Eye of Horus. "O Ra-Tem, you Lord of the great House [in Anu], you Sovereign (life, strentgh, health [be to you]) of all the gods, deliver you the scribe Nebseni, whose word is truth, from the god whose face is like to that of a greyhound, whose brows are like those of a man, who feeds on the dead, who watchs at the Bend of the Lake of Fire, who devours the bodies of the dead, and swallows hearts, and who voids filth, but who himself remains unseen." Who is this greyhound-faced god? "His name is 'Everlasting Devourer,' and he livs in the Domain [of Fire] (the Lake of Unt). "As concerning the Domain of Fire, it is that Aat which is in Naarutef, and is near the Sheniu chamber. The sinner who walks over this place falls down among the knives [of the watchers]. "Others, however, say that the name of this god is 'Mates,' and that he keeps watch over the door of Amentet; others say that his name is 'Beba,' and that he keeps watch over the Bend [of the stream] of Amentet, and yet others say that his name is 'Herisepef.' "Hail, Lord of Terror, Chief of the Lands of the South and North, you Lord of the Desert, who do indeed keep prepared the block of slaughter, and who do indeed feed on the intestines [of men]!" Who is this Lord of Terror? "It is the Keeper of the Bend [of the stream] of Amentet." Who is this Keeper? "It is the Heart of Osiris, which is the devourer of all slaughtered things. "The Urrt Crown has been given to him, with gladness of heart, as Lord of Hensu." Who is this? "He to whom the Urrt Crown has been given with gladness of heart as Lord of Hensu is Osiris. He was bidden to rule among the gods on the day of the union of earth [with earth] in the presence of Nebertcher." Who is this? "He who was bidden to rule among the gods is the son of Isis (Horus), who was appointed to rule in the room of his father Osiris. "As concerning [the words] 'day of the union of earth with earth,' they have reference to the union of earth with earth in the coffin of Osiris, the soul that lives in Hensu, the giver of meat and drink, the destroyer of wrong, and the guide to the everlasting paths." Who is this? "It is Ra himself." "[Deliver you the Osiris the scribe Ani, whose word is truth] from the great god who carrris away souls, who eats hearts, who feeds on offal, who keeps watch in the darkness, who dwells in the Seker Boat; those who live in sin fear him." Who is this? "It is Suti, but others say that it is Smamur, the soul of Keb. "Hail, Khepera in your boat, the two Companies of the gods are in your body. Deliver you the Osiris the scribe Ani, whose word is truth, from the watchers who pass sentences of doom, who have been appointed by the god Nebertcher to protect him, and to fasten the fetters on his foes, and who slaughter in the torture chambers; there is no escape from their fingers. May they never stab me with their knives, may I never fall helpless into their chambers of torture. I have never done the things which the gods hate. I am he who is pure in the Mesqet chamber. And saffron cakes have been brought to him in Tannt." Who is this? "It is Khepera in his boat; it is Ra himself. "As concerning the watchers who pass sentences of doom, they are the Apes Isis and Nephthys. "As concerning the things which the gods hate, they are acts of deceit and lying. He who passes through the place of purification within the Mesqet chamber is Anpu (Anubis), who is hard by the coffer which contains the inward parts of Osiris. He to whom saffron cakes have been brought in Tannt is Osiris. "Others, however, say that the saffron cakes in Tannt represent heaven and earth, and others say that they represent Shu, the strengthener of the Two Lands in Hensu; and others say that they represent the Eye of Horus, and that Tannt is the burial-place of Osiris. "Tem has builded your house, and the double Lion-god has laid the foundations of your habitation. Lo! medicaments have been brought. Horus purifis Set and Set strengthens, and Set purifis and Horus strengthens. "The Osiris the scribe Ani, whose word is truth before Osiris, has come into this land, and he has taken possession thereof with his two feet. He is Tem, and he is in the city. "Turn you back, Rehu, whose mouth shines, whose head movs, turn you back before his strength." Another reading is, 'Turn you back from him who keeps watch, and is himself unseen.' Let the Osiris Ani be safely guarded. He is Isis, and he is found with her hair spread over him; it is shaken out over his brow. He was conceived by Isis, and engendered by Nephthys, and they have cut away from him the things which should be cut from him. "Fear follows after you, terror is about your arms. You have been embraced for millions of years by arms; mortals go round about you. You smitest down the mediators of your foes, and you seizest the arms of the power of darkness. Your two sisters (Isis and Nephthys) are given to you for your delight. You have created that which is in Kher-aha, and that which is Anu. Every god fears you, for you are exceedingly great and terrible; you [avengest] every god on the man who curss him, and you shootest arrows at him. You livest according to your will. You are Uatchet, the lady of flame, evil befalls those who set themselves up against you." What is this? "'Hidden in form, given of Menhu,' is the name of the tomb. 'He who sees what is on his hand' is the name of Qerau, or, as others say, it is the name of the Block. "Now, he whose mouth shines and whose head movs is the phallus of Osiris, but others say it is [the phallus] of Ra. "You spread your hair, and I shake it out over his brow" is said concerning Isis, who hides in her hair, and draws it round about her. "Uatchet, the lady of flames, is the eye of Ra."
The seven arits The first arit The name of the doorkeeper is Sekhet-her-asht-aru. The name of the watcher is Smetti. The name of the herald is Hakheru. The Osiris Ani, whose word is truth, shall say when he comes to the First Arit: "I am the mighty one who creates his own light. I have come to you, Osiris, and, purified from that which defiles you, I adore you. Lead on. Name not the name of Ra-stau to me. Homage to you, Osiris, in your might and in your strength in Ra-stau. Rise up and conquer, Osiris, in Abtu. You go round about heaven, you sail in the presence of Ra, you look on all the beings who have knowledge. Hail, Ra, you who go round about in the sky, I say, Osiris in truth, that I am the sahu (spirit-body) of the god, and I beseech you not to let me be driven away, nor to be cast on the wall of blazing fire. Let the way be opened in Ra-stau, let the pain of the Osiris be relieved, embrace that which the balance has weighed, let a path be made for the Osiris in the great Valley, and let the Osiris have light to guide him on his way."
The second arit The name of the doorkeeper is Unhat. The name of the watcher is Seqt-her. The name of the herald is Ust. The Osiris Ani, whose word is truth, shall say [when he comes to this Arit]: "He sits to carry out his heart's desire, and he weighs words as the second of Thoth. The strength which protects Thoth humbles the hidden Maati gods, who feed on Maat during the years of their lives. I offer up my offerings [to him] at the moment when he makes his way. I advance, and I enter on the path. Grant that I may continue to advance, and that I may attain to the sight of Ra, and of those who offer up [their] offerings."
The third arit The name of the doorkeeper is Unem-hauatu-ent-pehui. The name of the watcher is Seres-her. The name of the herald is Aa. The Osiris the scribe Ani, whose word is truth, shall say [when he comes to this Arit]: "I am he who is hidden in the great deep. I am the Judge of the Rehui, I have come and I have done away the offensive thing which was on Osiris. I tie firmly the place on which he stands, coming forth from the Urt. I have established things in Abtu, I have opened up a way through Ra-stau, and I have relieved the pain which was in Osiris. I have balanced the place whereon he stands, and I have made a path for him; he shines brilliantly in Ra-stau."
The fourth arit The name of the doorkeeper is Khesef-her-asht-kheru. The name of the watcher is Seres-tepu. The name of the herald is Khesef-at. The Osiris the scribe Ani, whose word is truth, shall say [when he comes to this Arit]: "I am the Bull, the son of the ancestress of Osiris. Grant that his father, the Lord of his god-like companions, may bear witness on his behalf. I have weighed the guilty in judgement. I have brought to his nostrils the life which is everlasting. I am the son of Osiris, I have accomplished the journey, I have advanced in Khert-Neter."
The fifth arit The name of the doorkeeper is Ankhf-em-fent. The name of the watcher is Shabu. The name of the herald is Teb-her-kha-kheft. The Osiris the scribe Ani, whose word is truth, shall say [when he comes to this Arit]: "I have brought to you the jawbone in Ra-stau. I have brought to you your backbone in Anu. I have gathered together his manifold members in it. I have driven back Aapep for you. I have spit on the wounds [in his body]. I have made myself a path among you. I am the Aged One among the gods. I have made offerings to Osiris. I have defended him with the word of truth. I have gathered together his bones, and have collected all his members."
The sixth arit The name of the doorkeeper is Atek-tau-kehaq-kheru. The name of the watcher is An-her. The name of the herald is Ates-her-[ari]-she. The Osiris the scribe Ani, whose word is truth, shall say [when he comes to this Arit]: "I have come daily, I have come daily. I have made myself a way. I have advanced over that which was created by Anpu (Anubis). I am the Lord of the Urrt Crown. I am the possessor [of the knowledge of] the words of magical power, I am the avenger according to law, I have avenged [the injury to] his eye. I have defended Osiris. I have accomplished my journey. The Osiris Ani advances with you with the word which is truth."
The seventh arit The name of the doorkeeper is Sekhmet-em-tsu-sen. The name of the watcher is Aa-maa-kheru. The name of the herald is Khesef-khemi. The Osiris the scribe Ani, whose word is truth, shall say [when he comes to this Arit]: "I have come to you, Osiris, being purified from foul emissions. You go round about heaven, you see Ra, you see the beings who have knowledge. [Hail], you, ONE! Look, you are in the Sektet boat which traverses the heavens. I speak what I will to his Sahu (spirit-body). He is strong, and comes into being even [as] he spake. You meet him face to face. Prepare for me all the ways which are good [and which lead] to you."
RUBRIC: If [these] words be recited by the spirit when he shall come to the Seven Arits, and as he enters the doors, he shall neither be turned back nor repulsed before Osiris, and he shall be made to have his being among the blessed spirits, and to have dominion among the ancestral followers of Osiris. If these things be done for any spirit he shall have his being in that place like a lord of eternity in one body with Osiris, and at no place shall any being contend against him.
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Post by a'Lan Mandragoran on Jan 9, 2008 15:57:48 GMT -5
When this happened, I was in a deep trance when I was supposed to e doing my homework, nothing makes sense to me directly following that. I went down deeper than I usually do... well rightly, ever have before. It took me a full 15 minutes to pull myself back to full conciousness and even today, I'm a little fuzzy.
Anyway, after looking through my mindspace, I think I can partly discribe the vision that acompanied this writing.
I was walking through a wooded area, kind of on the edge of a great plains field and I saw a Lakota and Pawnee warrior comunicating. I can't say talking because they weren't. They were using sign language, and I coudln't make out was was being "said" but it was rather important. I stood and watched, I don't think they saw me but knoew I was there. A Kiowa elder then rode up on a horse with an Apache warrior close behind. They weren't on the typical horses you'd see them ride. No, they were on Norse war horses, armored and such. THe horses were also black. They then "noticed" me. I think they knew I was there all along though. They started talking to me in thier respective languages. Just greetings really, utnil a really old man wearing Norse armor came up, commented about the horses and gave the Pawnee a gun with Kaw tribal markings on it and the Lakota a Viking broadsword. (It was him who spoke the words that I typed instead of my technical paper.) Shortly after that, things get a little fuzzy, I can't remember anything but I know something there happeened. Anyway, the next thing I remember is we were running away from a bright, shining golden hawk and Creedence Clearwater's "Bad Moon Rising" playing. Then I came out of the trance and passed out, litterally.
Don't ask me how I was able to identify the various tribes. I'm only familiar with Lakota and Pawnee to some degree, and even that's much lacking.
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Post by lordazurath on Jan 9, 2008 19:20:58 GMT -5
well, this is all very odd. sounds like a warning call. something big is going to happen. Not bad, perse, but big...
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Post by KG on Jan 9, 2008 23:47:17 GMT -5
Horus one of the egyptian gods, named as a watcher, is symbolized as a Hawk. Egyptians considered their Pharaohs the living Horus.
I find it odd that the Norse are supplying Native Americans with weapons and horses, but that is what you saw... strange as if we were going to re-inact the indian wars with Norse on their side... could have made a difference at the time for sure, but now? I can't figure out what it could mean for now. It is very puzzling. It's a little late in the game for an indian uprising.... except that there are both Native American, and Norse settlements in my heaven, who are re-enacting those cultures as they were practiced long ago... You've met my norsemen... could one of them be the one who spoke? Real ancient Norsemen would not likely speak of watchers I don't think, that is Egyptian, and Sumerian Ledgend, but the Norsemen in my heaven were well educated and recently incarnate... disincarnate now, most of them... so they would know Egyptian ledgend, and they would also be aware of astral occurances. Is this Norseman you saw possibly one of the ones from the Norse village in my heaven?
The song seems fitting enough... here are the lyrics to Bad Moon Rising... it goes well with the channel you typed.
I see the bad moon arising. I see trouble on the way. I see earthquakes and lightnin. I see bad times today.
Chorus: Dont go around tonight, Well, its bound to take your life, Theres a bad moon on the rise.
I hear hurricanes ablowing. I know the end is coming soon. I fear rivers over flowing. I hear the voice of rage and ruin.
Chorus All right!
Hope you got your things together. Hope you are quite prepared to die. Looks like were in for nasty weather. One eye is taken for an eye.
Chorus Chorus
Anyway it sounds like a dire warning, but also it doesn't sound like they would be after us in specific, I don't think. Do you have any idea who this watcher's anger is stirred against?
Kim
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Post by a'Lan Mandragoran on Jan 10, 2008 2:19:19 GMT -5
Ash seems to think that it's a vision about change at it's heart. She's only just now getting into interpritation of dreams and visions so she'll need a little time and help. As for the Norseman, no, this one was something from my past. A past life that I can't recall the name from. The Native Americans however, the Lakota and the Apache I recognized from your heaven. I don't get half of what it could mean, nore do I really care. Change and dire warnings is all I need to know to prepare. It's full of so much information that it'll take a REALLY long time to decipher it all. I think it's just to warn us that something they're doing might spill over into our neck of the woods. I could be wrong however.
I need to look into Egyptian mythology some more it seems. None of this, have I heard before. I'll also need to try to hold on to the memory of this vision and go over it when school's not threatening to overwhelm me.
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Post by KG on Jan 10, 2008 10:45:02 GMT -5
You have a good point about school. That is important, and you can't afford to get sidetracked by this stuff, which we have to deal with all the time.
There is also no use in getting upset about it. That doesn't help anything, and really weakens us when we let things disturb us.
My Native Americans are a mixture of tribes trying to increase awareness of Native American culture. They teach the similarities and differences between the tribes, and educate people on the cultures, which incarnates can experience through visions, and astral experiences. So it makes sense that you would have met several different tribes. They work together closely.
I get the feeling my Norse people are involved too, I know they are up to something anyway. LOL The energy in their camp is very strong.
IT is puzzling though that we have native American, Norse and Egyptian stuff involved. I wish Del was here for the discussion on Egyption stuff. Maybe she will check in soon.
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Post by Wunderkind on Jan 11, 2008 17:10:31 GMT -5
Wow, this all seems freaky and over my head at the moment. The good thing is that my spirit sister Mel is super good at things like this and will be staying at my house in a few days. I'll pop her on and see her views.
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Post by Del on Jan 11, 2008 21:05:12 GMT -5
Oh god I don't even know where to start.
As far as the Watchers go, I've ran into them before. I wonder if a certain Gatekeeper I know has anything to do with that specific meeting once upon a time.
Um, I recently had a dream, there were animals, well they looked like animals but they were children of Gaia, and they came to me to tell me of something that was coming, their eyes held the dark night with stars in them, and this thing that was coming, seemed to be like a change of time or a change of how things are now, where there is this one critical point that could tip the scales either way...i got caught in the middle because I decided to help the children of Gaia and got pulled into something bigger than usual.
As far as the Egyptians go...I wouldn't know where to start. I need to finish reading the posts Kim posted and maybe get a better idea.
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Post by KG on Jan 12, 2008 2:08:50 GMT -5
Well my first thoughts on this were very positive. My initial research on watchers was positive... my recent research wasn't as in depth, but frightened me quite a bit, but after talking to several people about Watchers, I realize again that they are fair entities, and therefore different people have different views of them at different times... everyone is justified in their own eyes, and they rarely take well to being punished. Also sometimes just people fear judgment, more than nasty people. They feel guilty for every little thing, and fear reprisals when none are due. Many cultures believed in Watchers, including Aztecs and Mayans at least accoring to Devine, who made me feel a whole lot better. I think this watcher will be fair. I got that impression from what Lan wrote to start with, and after mulling it over, I choose a positive interpretation.
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Post by Del on Jan 12, 2008 2:47:46 GMT -5
Well my first thoughts on this were very positive. My initial research on watchers was positive... my recent research wasn't as in depth, but frightened me quite a bit, but after talking to several people about Watchers, I realize again that they are fair entities, and therefore different people have different views of them at different times... everyone is justified in their own eyes, and they rarely take well to being punished. Also sometimes just people fear judgment, more than nasty people. They feel guilty for every little thing, and fear reprisals when none are due. Many cultures believed in Watchers, including Aztecs and Mayans at least accoring to Devine, who made me feel a whole lot better. I think this watcher will be fair. I got that impression from what Lan wrote to start with, and after mulling it over, I choose a positive interpretation. I didn't mean to say I thought them negative or felt negatively about them. I agree with what's been said about them.
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Post by KG on Jan 12, 2008 7:52:43 GMT -5
I know you were one of the ones who made me feel better about it. The above quote from the Book of the Dead was what scared me. It's just one passage. I know you said they were cool, and that is one of the reasons I am relieved. Lets just say that if there is a watcher out there, I hope he's either on our side, or that he will be fair in his dealings, and not have a side. Lord knows I wouldn't want to be at war with one of those things in the enemy camp. I may not know a lot about them, but I know that much. LOL
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