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Post by stonerwolf on Mar 6, 2007 19:53:18 GMT -5
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Post by Del on Mar 6, 2007 22:24:04 GMT -5
Ooo, I wonder....hmmmm
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Post by a'Lan Mandragoran on Mar 6, 2007 22:27:54 GMT -5
Here we go with this again.... Stoner, it's all a coincidence. Also notice that if you look at the layout JUST right you see a square and compus, Massianic symbols. So does that mean that the Free Masson's rule the U.S.?
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Post by stonerwolf on Mar 7, 2007 1:03:23 GMT -5
that too... >.> almost every president has been a freemason you know...
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Post by KG on Mar 7, 2007 4:00:45 GMT -5
Actually Stoner is right... the Capitol is laid out in that shape on purpose... old symbols change in meaning and rise and fall in popularity. Just look at the swastica... it was a very ancient, and overall positive symbol, which got adopted by a very bad group in the early 19th century. The pentagram isn't satanic... it has just been interpreted that way by certain modern alarmist christian groups. Previously Christians commonly used the pentagram to represent the five wounds of Jesus, and it also has associations within Freemasonry. The symbol is much older though, than Christianity or Freemasonry. Here is an article on the various meanings of the pentagram... which was first used in 3000 BC in Mesopotamian writings to represent a word meaning corner or nook. They also represent the five planets, and many female goddesses. The greeks used it as a symbol for the goddess of health. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PentagramThe Swastika was a Hindu symbol for "good luck' and 'well being' Unfortunately it didn't work out that way for at least 11 million Jews, 6 million Gypsies, and god only knows who else. People adopt and misuse ancient symbols because they want the power off of them, but it tends to work against them more than for them when they try to use that power for evil. Considering the business the government is in now, and the similar German Government in 1940-45 I consider it more a desecration of the symbols, than anything else... in both cases. And of course the current government belongs to Satan. We don't need a sign or a symbol to know that.
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Post by stonerwolf on Mar 7, 2007 17:33:50 GMT -5
lol yeah... and i knew that about the symbols too... but it is commonly understood the way it is.... the symbols are being used for wrong, regardless of their origins, that makes them wrong, for at least such purposes.
i didnt know all that about the pentagram though thanks for the info! *thumbs up*
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Post by a'Lan Mandragoran on Mar 7, 2007 22:58:01 GMT -5
I don't put much stock in most conspericies. They just make my head go splody. The only one that I think about is the UFOs in Roswell NM. really... cause I KNOW there's stuff out there... and it MAY have made it here... but mer...
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Post by Sacerdos on Apr 12, 2007 20:22:54 GMT -5
Just as a note, Satanism isn't a religion of evil, but rather a religion that believes in the more animalistic side of people and try to be human, rather that attempting to be divine like Christianity. But Christianity has made it out to be evil with extremely exaggerated propaganda. Because of this, some Christian-defined-Satanists act exactly as these Christians see them just to spite them.
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Post by KG on Apr 13, 2007 0:40:34 GMT -5
That is a very interesting point Sacerdos. I think the key to that is the fact that Satanism is a word. Words are also a type of symbol. Just as people use the Swastika, Pentagram, and other symbols to mean different things, they also adopt words for different uses... in fairness the copyright probably expired thousands of years ago, on those symbols and words. LOL
I agree that many so called, and self proclaimed Satanists don't actually worship Satan... I wonder why they chose the title though. Maybe for some shock value?
Satan is a biblical character, whose name actually means adversary. There is little indication that Satan of the Bible was Lucifer, but apparently the term Devil (the greek word diabolos) is occasionally used to mean Satan. Diabolos means Slanderer, or false accuser, or adversary. Satan is a god... Note lower case... of divine power, but ill intent.
The word translated anti-christ, means adversary of Christ. So the AntiChrist is also the Adversary... enemy, and one who is opposing.
When you read the Gnostic texts you discover that Jesus spoke of an adversary known as the Demurge. It seems probable that most of his references to Satan, were infact about Demurge, who is the very one, you reference in your signature as being a mass murderer. Demurge is not God, but he is a sort of mimic of God... jealous, cruel, and the enemy of Christ. He is the one responsible for the persecutions, and the wicked behavior you obviously despise so much. Satan is Demurge, but whenever any religion falters from the practice of true divinity, which is love then the Demurge creeps in easily to decieve them. All religions have been decieved by Demurge at one point or another.
It is my opinion based on the texts that Satan is none other than the Demurge, not Lucifer. The term Lucifer is only mentioned once in the Bible, but much has been made of the one story. Demurge far from being the rebelious fallen angel, fed up with being ordered around, was in fact the one ordering him around. Demurge was once captain of many angels.
Now he serves as God of extremist, hate filled, persecuting people of all faiths. Christians, Muslims, Jews, Nazi's, Catholics, ect. throughout history have occasionally been mislead by him, thus certain confusing bible passages, and very bizzare behavior among most all Religious people from time to time. He is a mimic. When people cannot find it in their hearts to behave in a loving way towards their fellow man, they fall under the deceptions of the adversary, the accusor (demurge.) The accusor is responsible for the Crusades, the Witch Trials, and the Spanish Inquisition. He was the one who possessed Hitler.
Demurge is easily recognized as not part of the "demonic" forces. Demurge believes in rules. His followers become obcessed with them. Demurge is not fearful of church or holy objects... he thinks he is God, and so do a lot of other people. Demurge sets different groups of people who fall under his control against each other, so that they will fight each other, and he often sets them against real Christians, and other sincere people too. He hates women, cats, kabalistic Jews, and any type of knowledge, wisdom, or magic. If you go through history you will see the ear marks of his persecutions easily.
I can't imagine why anyone would want to be called a Satainist, but there are a lot of them out there... and not the ones you speak of.
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Post by Shadow of Light on Apr 13, 2007 11:20:13 GMT -5
Well an interesting thing I came aross a while back is that lucifer is called the light bringer and jesus called the light. If I remember correctly and I may be wrong here, it was said jesus conversed whether willingly or not with satan which these days is interchangable with lucifer. Just an interesting thing I found, make of it what you will.
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Post by Kata Samoes on Apr 13, 2007 17:37:00 GMT -5
Just as a note, Satanism isn't a religion of evil, but rather a religion that believes in the more animalistic side of people and try to be human, rather that attempting to be divine like Christianity. But Christianity has made it out to be evil with extremely exaggerated propaganda. Because of this, some Christian-defined-Satanists act exactly as these Christians see them just to spite them. Which is LaVeyan Satanism, the most referenced and also interpreted reference form of Satanism to all but the ignorant or thick-minded. Luciferian Satanism is what Stoner was referring to, which seems fake and too..rebellious and angsty to me. But that's me. Just wanted clarify for everyone.
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Post by stonerwolf on Apr 15, 2007 15:52:02 GMT -5
ahhh i wasnt referring to anything in particular, it was an ignorant thread title truly lol
i was just google earthing when i went to DC and made note of the layout of the streets, so i took a screenshot and shared it with my friends here in SS n_n
a better title might have been "DC's Pentagram"?
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