I don't know; I have been dealing with SO MUCH shit, personally, which only really concerns me that I might not have noticed if anything "bigger" was going on. Of course, I never notice when everyone says something huge is happening.
This thing has a lot of levels, and it seems able to manipulate circumstances to distract us. I sense the darkness, and overall screwed up energy around... It is very depressing... and yet I don't know how much of the depressing stuff is personal... I have been emersed in depressing stuff lately on the mundane. I know though that the darkness is breaking though in random areas. It might be forming a pattern I don't understand enough to see. Maybe someone with knowledge of ley lines, and various earth energy systems could spot the pattern right away. For me it seems random. Maybe we could make a map with little dots for problem areas. Please if you do put a spot on my area of NC. The energy sucks here right now, and even with my personal problems, I know it isn't all just me.
Anyway I am ready for war, but it would help if we understood this problem better. I think we should get on a staff only board and really brainstorm all this stuff.
Post by lordazurath on Nov 19, 2007 19:26:37 GMT -5
i dont know.. but there is deffinantly something dark going on, something trying to break through. I've noticed.. people changing. some people are just, entirely depressing to be around, and i'm in a GREAT mood, so i know its not me.
btw.. i've been having some crazy dreams.. people dieing, appocalyptic scenerios.. what scares me, is half the stuff i dream comes true..
but, i dont think it should be much of a problem, not yet anyways
As for the dreams I think most of us have had those. It is impossible to tell though if these are precognition, suggestion, because we talk about this stuff a lot, or if they are just things that might happen, or are already happening on the astral... maybe they are just illusions sent to frighten us... any of the above is possible, but yes, we've all had the dreams, or at least most of us.
Personally I think the future is still up for grabs, at least the next 30 years or so... it seems to me that something has disturbed the status quo, and sort of run amok... It's anybody's ball game for a while. That is the impression I have anyway... not saying there isn't some ultimate control to be had, by God, but there are also things set in motion that should not be. I'd say someone is playing God... but everyone plays God in one way or another... it's more like someone is playing God without proper authorization... or even predictability... probably a lot of people.
Post by lordazurath on Nov 19, 2007 22:05:56 GMT -5
i do belive mos of you all have had them, but, have they actually come true? i mean, i seriously dream of people dieing, and it happens.. it truely sucks.
i dont know about anyone trying to play god.. maybe, but yea, we all do sometimes.. i do belive we are all god.. i belive he has givin us all a bit of his "power" but. idk how to explain it.. not right now anyway.. my head is spinning. i need sleep..
Some of the people here are able to predict things in their dreams... mine aren't usually that way, but yes of course some of our dreams come true... and some are symbolic, and some are just the product of our regular worries and concerns. It is hard to know which is which until it happens. I think that some of this stuff will happen, but I hope some of it can be averted. I do think it could go either way.
We are all God, in a sense... even those who do not follow him, or try to rebel and do things counter to his wishes. The problem I mean is that some people/entities are wielding a lot of power, and using it in a counterproductive way that is harmful... at least that is my opinion. Those of us who are trying to do positive things, listen to guidance, and are at least trying to improve the situation. I think they are trying to mess with the preordaned plans, and change the future, in a way that was not intended... a very negative way. I think they are searching for even tiny ways to change things... variables if you will. Most people are hopelessly predictable. Their behavior patterns and their loyalties are set. Most situations are also very predictable because of that. I think maybe, what they are looking for is a set of variables that throw off the future course, just enough to change the outcome of prophecy, and the intended future.
Just think, all religions have prophecies, and a lot of them match up... even the new age movement has the veil, which is not out of line with the older ideas. I think something is trying to wrestle control of the future by throwing things off in tiny ways. Almost like in the cheezy movie, "it's a wonderful life" where they guy wishes he'd never been born, and then sees how that would have effected his neighors, friends and family... the world is a different place without him... worldwide it seems like a small detail, just one life, but all of us make a difference. Also remember in the Bible, Herod killing all the babies trying to get rid of Jesus... and before that Pharoh did the same thing trying to get rid of Moses. So in those stories a future was set, and someone tried to change it. I think that is what we are seeing now, and they may be having more success.
Post by Shadow of Light on Nov 20, 2007 3:20:04 GMT -5
Kim that situation could be defined as the trap of power. The more power you get the further you trap yourself, "We have become masters of our own fate and prisoners to our destiny" Power gives you a way to fight destiny but doing so traps you further into it even if you change the course a bit. We all eventually learn that there is a set order for things to happen, at least certain things and occasionally we don't like it and use our will to change it. Whether or not it will change depends on how much you're willing to sacrifice to achieve your goal.
A thought that it took according to the bible 1 man to save the world so in teh same sense, it'd take one man to damn it too. I dunno, just a thought.
There are many pitfalls some of which we don't see and some of which we do, perhaps the worst one of all is the trap of power, whereby we become masters of our own fate yet trap ourselves within the webs of destiny. You soon learn that power has no limits and because of that, it's a trap which you could fall forever into and not realize it.
The Bible says there is one man who will try to damn the world. It goes into some detail as to his plan, methods, and behavior... Then it explains how he will be defeated. IT will require that certain special entities will be incarnate, and that these souls though they will suffer and die, will bring an end to his reign of terror.
Now here is the stretch of imagination... suppose someone tried to either usurp him, or use an earlier incarnation of him to bring about the whole senerio early, when conditions were more favorable for this "anti-christ" to succeed. Suppose these entities themselves incarnated in, gained influence over, or possessed, certain key political figures, and wealthy influential people. Just enough so that they could effect the circumstances of the world... even just a little. Suppose that the entity, or entities involved tricked or bribed power hungry magickians to do various acts to change the world's astral atmosphere to a more favorable climate for his success. By changing the astral atmosphere, the emotions of people, and the overall mood of society as a whole, could be influenced. Their actions could be influenced both singularly as desired, and as a group, through manipulation of their enviornment.
Like I said most humans are frighteningly predictable. Any given Stimulation yields a standard responce in every demographic. For example blow up a building... be it Oaklahoma City, Twin Towers, or the buildings in Iraq. Consider its meaning to people... 95 percent of those people who live within 200 miles of it, will fly into hysterical panic, and about 70 percent of those who live in the same country will also fly into a panic. Alied countries will be less upset, but still will respond at a high level. Enemy nations may be elated, or they may be sympathetic, but it will not panic them like the place under attack. People's outward responce may not match their inner responce. Secretly some people in the country will be pleased. Finally something is happening... finally the wrath of God comes down on the wicked neighbor city... but you can't say that out loud. Not in any country hardly... still the percentage of these people increases too. Still others begin to see the causes that really brought about the strike... They look at the facts, and are able to push aside the hysterical propaganda. Civil unrest starts as a murmer... in the crowd and esculates. Some of those who were at first swayed in one direction may change sides and see the logic of what those more analytical people are saying, but many will steadfastly uphold the hysterical status quo, of patriotism, religious loyalty, or whatever the normal hype is for that country. They welcome ignorance, and refuse to consider the facts, because they are afraid to even consider the truth, that maybe their faith was in error. Both sides become militant. Next thing you know you have civil disruption.
Another example that could occur simultaneously might be that a depressing air could hit random spots through the world. Couple this with poverty for the average Joe, and a loss of hope among the people... which may be politically induced but also finds a receptive host in the spiritual climate. About 15 percent of the people are adept enough, or just positive enough in their energy to throw off the spiritual climate and still think clearly, and keep their areas clean of the nasty energy. That still leaves 85 percent of the people at the mercy of depression, dispare and misery. Now about 5 percent of those people are volitile. They will respond with violence... not usually organized violence though... instead of focusing on the problem and its causes they respond hysterically by robbing and killing their neighbors. As the dispare increases... less volitile people follow suit, as they are moved to become more volitle... suddenly you have a huge crime wave. You have another 25 percent who are prone to dispare and hopelessness. They just give up and colapse. Other family members try to perpetuate their existance but they have lost all will. They become soulless spectors, who cannot take action at all. These numbers also increase as dispare increases. So now imagine you have 35 percent of the people in various stages of hopeless dispare.... you have 10 percent involved in random violence and criminal activity. You have 15 percent still trying to stay clean of the neg energy and find a way to solve the problem... and the remaining 45 percent are desperately trying to maintain a subserviant role in the status quo.
As things continue to fester those 15 percent who were warding off the neg energy... start to weaken, but they also become more obvious to anyone who is aware... eventually those that succeed in maintaining the positive energy are few, and very noticiable. They become persecuted, and the negative energy builds around them as opposite and therefore the enemy of the status quo negativity, and the violent negativity.
That is just the obvious problem. Within each life there are inumerable pressures, which either occur naturally, or because of the increasing negativity. The negative, and dark energy field, might contain the power of illusion, which would work like a limbo to produce parinoid delusions, and a sense that things are even worse than they are. It might have torments within it which cause people who are sensitive... even adepts to suffer. In general the negative energy field puts pressure on people. It brings out the worst in most all of them. It is somewhat individual, but still predictable to the individual. Arising out of the field though, will be both positive and negative entities that DO have power. Made stronger by feeding the dark ones, and by pressing down on the positive ones, like ankle weights on a runner these people will develop strength, skill and abilities. While the masses go haywire some people will stand through this.
Of course there will be that layer of it all that remains untouched... mostly the culprits, and the people they use to get what they want... the upper three percent of society will make it through entirely unscathed. The inocents among them will have no idea that there is even a problem. They will be brainwashed in the ways of their forefathers, to think themselves above the problems of the masses. The bad karma is still on their heads though... in the long run.
In general this is a political senerio... mostly because politics is easier to understand than the details of what is really going on, which is the torture and partial distruction of souls... the harvesting of their energy and all the negativity which surrounds that.
I could go on and on, but I think you get the idea, as well as I do.
Post by a'Lan Mandragoran on Nov 20, 2007 12:36:33 GMT -5
Humanity is its own worst enemy. Sadly, it is human nature to take up politics to some degree, more than to help those in need. Even those in positions to help others are doing it for political gain, either on the mundane or the astral, or even in whatever heaven they think they'll go to. More over, they think the worse off here those hey help, or even themselves, the higher up they'll be when they get wherever they think they will go. I really hate how politics goes into EVERY human system in some way shape or form, even the family is a political unit it some way.
There are two diferent types of darkness from what I've seen in this current situation. One is the main evil, the other though, it's the natural darkness that comes over the land before something important happens. A winnowing force that will sweep through the lands and will ignight the same symtoms you discribed, as it changes the strong to become stronger and the weak into something entirely different. Both forces seek to use political entities and establishments to do its work before the end.
The point of philosophy is to start with something so simple as not to seem worth stating,and to end with something so paradoxical that no one will believe it.
Who are you? What do you want? Why are you here and do you have anything worth living for? Where are you going?
a'Lan Mandragoran: There is no more life here!!!!!! WHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?! mew
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Del: Oh a'Lan...I'm sorry about that....
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Xavrael: I can only assume that life happened, a'Lan. =]
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KG: Didn't realize it had been so long. Yes, I am still living... it's been tough lately though. Still hanging in there. Trying to write a book... broke as usual. LOL
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KG: Wow one problem has improved already. Anyway, I think things are a lot better... Thanks you guys.
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Del: I should...perhaps, be a bit more attentive to this site, now-a-days...
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