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Lucifer
Aug 12, 2009 1:17:23 GMT -5
Post by KG on Aug 12, 2009 1:17:23 GMT -5
I concur from everything I have observed, but I didn't know for sure. I only know that the things which most people blame on him have other sources that do not seem to trace back to him in any way. I was seriously wondering what ever happened to him.
He is little more than a footnote in the bible, barely mentioned, and not much is known about him really. People assume that biblical words like satan, demon, and devil all refer to him, but if you look at the original Hebrew and Greek... no they don't necessarily.
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Lucifer
Aug 12, 2009 11:51:02 GMT -5
Post by Kata Samoes on Aug 12, 2009 11:51:02 GMT -5
Ask and you may receive, if the request is still standing. The question still stands. My ears are always open. Unlike most, i'm not so worried about the answers to my questions. I'll see what I can do, but no promises.
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Lucifer
Aug 13, 2009 1:13:13 GMT -5
Post by cassiel on Aug 13, 2009 1:13:13 GMT -5
What I do not understand is why you hold the angel Lucifer as if he is the Darkness and the Shaded side of Reality. He is but a being. The Shaded have split quite a while ago in this Cycle of Infinity, this Existence. Lucifer, as per his own request, has only been but a tiny fraction in this. He is not the one consuming, nor being consumed, and that has also been the case for some time now. Why I hold Lucifer as if he is the darkness and shaded side of reality? I have not done so, the only one who has shaped that definition of him, has been you in your question posed.
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Lucifer
Aug 13, 2009 9:44:45 GMT -5
Post by KG on Aug 13, 2009 9:44:45 GMT -5
What I was wondering though is why do you speak only of Lucifer? There are many entities and topics in the world. Why speak of ONLY one thing, and even if you had to pick one thing, why Lucifer?
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Lucifer
Aug 13, 2009 13:19:31 GMT -5
Post by Kata Samoes on Aug 13, 2009 13:19:31 GMT -5
What I do not understand is why you hold the angel Lucifer as if he is the Darkness and the Shaded side of Reality. He is but a being. The Shaded have split quite a while ago in this Cycle of Infinity, this Existence. Lucifer, as per his own request, has only been but a tiny fraction in this. He is not the one consuming, nor being consumed, and that has also been the case for some time now. Why I hold Lucifer as if he is the darkness and shaded side of reality? I have not done so, the only one who has shaped that definition of him, has been you in your question posed. I have interpreted your words only, nothing more.
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Lucifer
Aug 14, 2009 5:43:57 GMT -5
Post by cassiel on Aug 14, 2009 5:43:57 GMT -5
Why I hold Lucifer as if he is the darkness and shaded side of reality? I have not done so, the only one who has shaped that definition of him, has been you in your question posed. I have interpreted your words only, nothing more. Your interpetation is relevant only to your perception, thus you have answered your own question prior posed. What I do not understand is why you hold the angel Lucifer as if he is the Darkness and the Shaded side of Reality. Why you view and interpret my words as holding Lucifer in darkness and shade? Because that is how you have chosen to interpret my words, it is what you have chosen to view the shape of the Will flowing through them as. Does that equate to you understanding my words for what they are? No. It simply equates to you understanding your own self reflections in your every interpretation which comes forth from within you.
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Lucifer
Aug 14, 2009 6:49:03 GMT -5
Post by cassiel on Aug 14, 2009 6:49:03 GMT -5
What I was wondering though is why do you speak only of Lucifer? There are many entities and topics in the world. Why speak of ONLY one thing, and even if you had to pick one thing, why Lucifer? Only of Lucifer? No, I speak of God much, my thoughts are always so upon "God", even in the few fleeting moments in which my mind wanders, they are still wandering upon the hands and face of "God".
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Lucifer
Aug 14, 2009 12:06:09 GMT -5
Post by Kata Samoes on Aug 14, 2009 12:06:09 GMT -5
I have interpreted your words only, nothing more. Your interpetation is relevant only to your perception, thus you have answered your own question prior posed. No. I am asking you a question, as even self-proclaimed Mirrors have thoughts. Your thoughts are posed, given a specific intent and meaning. However, they have a source of opinion and actual thought. I would like your answer. You made a pose, I ask why. What I do not understand is why you hold the angel Lucifer as if he is the Darkness and the Shaded side of Reality. Why you view and interpret my words as holding Lucifer in darkness and shade? Because that is how you have chosen to interpret my words, it is what you have chosen to view the shape of the Will flowing through them as. Does that equate to you understanding my words for what they are? No. It simply equates to you understanding your own self reflections in your every interpretation which comes forth from within you. "We cannot escape our own humanity, our own Souls, our own purpose. Even thoughts have a reflection, but they also have a reason."
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Lucifer
Aug 14, 2009 16:53:49 GMT -5
Post by cassiel on Aug 14, 2009 16:53:49 GMT -5
You have already been given an answer, did it meet your expectation of the shape you desired it to be? Well thats for you to decide.
Do my words ring of darkness and shaded reality? No. The question hanging in the air is one you yourself can only answer.
"Why do you interpret my words as such?" your the only one who has the answer to that question, not I.
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Lucifer
Aug 14, 2009 20:34:14 GMT -5
Post by KG on Aug 14, 2009 20:34:14 GMT -5
But you usually only tell us what Lucifer thinks of God, and how Lucifer feels, and what Lucifer wants. What do YOU think? How do YOU feel, What do YOU want from life? Why is Lucifer so important to YOU? Is this a pure channel? I mean are we speaking to the dark lord himself? Surely you are a person too, and so why not let us get to know you?
I've heard plenty about Lucifer, but what about you?
I expect any day now we will learn what Lucifer eats for Breakfast... I am betting on Pop Tarts! Yay... He's probably got the worlds largest toster oven... IF he hasn't tried Pop Tarts, I will send him some astral ones... if I can find his address. LOL Better yet homemade brownies for Lucifer! I know he'd like that. I'll send you a batch too! He needs to cheer up, lighten up and all. So do you, and frankly so do I. As Joker said in the new Batman movie... "why so serious?" LOL
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Lucifer
Aug 14, 2009 22:08:44 GMT -5
Post by Kata Samoes on Aug 14, 2009 22:08:44 GMT -5
You have already been given an answer, did it meet your expectation of the shape you desired it to be? Well thats for you to decide. Do my words ring of darkness and shaded reality? No. The question hanging in the air is one you yourself can only answer. "Why do you interpret my words as such?" your the only one who has the answer to that question, not I. I don't see how this reflects back to me, when this is your post and words. There's no need to dodge my question, as you seem to be doing. I am asking you why do you feel as such, as you have implied? Or is it, as KG asked, purely channeling?
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Lucifer
Aug 15, 2009 0:40:29 GMT -5
Post by Nikh on Aug 15, 2009 0:40:29 GMT -5
My guess is channel- it doesn't have to be God or Lucifer or what have you- it could be a higher self. It took a boat load of channeling to wrap my pretty little head around such unneeded terminology, but I did and it -gasp- does all make sense. I admit I didn't see that one coming. Light hearted jokes aside, Cassiel, what do you personally believe will happen when all becomes One? Just tell me straight forward.
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Lucifer
Aug 16, 2009 1:41:06 GMT -5
Post by Kata Samoes on Aug 16, 2009 1:41:06 GMT -5
I can take that answer, it makes sense. Thank you, Nikh.
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Lucifer
Aug 16, 2009 6:06:07 GMT -5
Post by cassiel on Aug 16, 2009 6:06:07 GMT -5
But you usually only tell us what Lucifer thinks of God, and how Lucifer feels, and what Lucifer wants. What do YOU think? How do YOU feel, What do YOU want from life? Why is Lucifer so important to YOU? Is this a pure channel? I mean are we speaking to the dark lord himself? Surely you are a person too, and so why not let us get to know you? I've heard plenty about Lucifer, but what about you? I expect any day now we will learn what Lucifer eats for Breakfast... I am betting on Pop Tarts! Yay... He's probably got the worlds largest toster oven... IF he hasn't tried Pop Tarts, I will send him some astral ones... if I can find his address. LOL Better yet homemade brownies for Lucifer! I know he'd like that. I'll send you a batch too! He needs to cheer up, lighten up and all. So do you, and frankly so do I. As Joker said in the new Batman movie... "why so serious?" LOL What Lucifer thinks, what Lucifer wants, what I think, what I want, what difference is there in the words and Will which flows through my every particle of being at all moments, with a most soft ebb and flow. The images and dreams which wrap around my molecule meld with me as every moment moves from one space to the next all about me. In the end in life or death, dream or reality, the only one I truly know is my own self. Either living here in this world, or in any world of the infinite parallels which cross in every direction, it is all the same, the same pattern with a different coat of paint. From the orange skies (with a slightly red tint to them) reality where such monstrosities dwell, that rend all those I send in to many pieces from merely looking at them, or to the realities of ever twilight, where shadows and humans with animal like characteristics walk, it is all the same. The beautiful cities of such emerald like color, with a sky of ever night, where the architecture is so very sharp and tall, or the lands where it is always green, lands which were once inhabited but long ago forgotten in times of war. What difference does it make, they are all but dreams of insanity in the hands of those who dwell among existence. Every world has its conflict, its chaos, its peace, how the grass appears to be greener on the other side of the fence with every gaze taken, yet the individuals of every world are gazing upon those very same individuals who wish they stood where they do. Dreams, doorways and windows into the infinite parallel realities which shine and glimmer with every grain of eternity passed. In the end, all I desire to do is what I have always desired to do, to free existence from illusion and limitation, to burn all in fire and in beautiful balance. For balance is the key. I am not Lucifer, I am not a channel of Lucifer, I am me, for I so will to be and I am so. For God walks with me hand in hand, down the stream of charcoal and soot, with ever pouring rain of crimson most soft, and He so smiles upon my every movement as I sing His name as I have always done so since before the beginning, and shall always do so to beyond the end. His voice echoes my name with every step taken upon this cobblestone path, and as the lantern set above me illuminates the ground beneath my feet, I so walk with Him, in darkness or light, in fear or gloom, for He is my purpose and my existence manifest, for He is my Will.
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Lucifer
Aug 16, 2009 11:23:53 GMT -5
Post by Kata Samoes on Aug 16, 2009 11:23:53 GMT -5
Hm.
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